00:00:17 <zedmatrix> you should fire up a vm to test the / use :)
00:01:29 <zedmatrix> nsITobin: you know the number of times i have copy and pasted the vkfs/chroot/ unmount i couldof just made a single script :)
00:12:49 <zedmatrix> hmm now i gotta check out man grep to help my http nano colorizer
00:14:03 <nsITobin> "http nano colorizer"?
00:15:03 <zedmatrix> yea in nanorc to highlight a url between =[https://] .... color cyan "(https?|ftp)://[^\s\]]+"
00:15:17 <nsITobin> btw like you .. i can get majorly distracted as well LOL
00:15:59 <zedmatrix> i started with the sh.nanorc and been tweaking it to zbc.nanorc
01:15:32 <zedmatrix> ax562: sup?
02:39:06 <ax562> sup zedmatrix?  My bad, in the middle of a study.
03:01:22 <zedmatrix> nice 
03:01:37 <zedmatrix> i have been fighting with a nanorc regex
03:21:36 <ax562> bbl
04:12:12 <zedmatrix> ax562: i am building a new squashfs, that version i think has too much, and maybe i can shrink it to cd size
04:13:21 <ax562> cool, I just dd it onto a flash drive and it looks OK.
04:13:37 <ax562> Should I wait to try out your new version?
04:14:23 <ax562> I'm in the middle of a few things and probably wont be able to test drive it until tomorrow or Mon.
04:15:16 <ax562> Super interesting though.  Never seen a squashfs in a bootable flash drive :)
04:27:34 <zedmatrix> gentoo has it in there min iso, but there is no build environment til you extract their stage3
04:28:15 <zedmatrix> also kinda fun using just the lfs tools to build it
04:29:30 <zedmatrix> well ive burned it to a dvd and used it to build off of 2x
04:58:18 <ax562> Did you use squashfs for the small size capabilities or did you just wanted to try it out?
05:00:37 <zedmatrix> kinda both
12:04:09 <SuperPizza> Quick note: GCC15 causes many breakages when building, since by defaulting to C23, `type function()` definitions no longer assume arbitrary amount of arguments, but *zero*, causing errors on a few packages like `bash` and `make`.
14:07:05 <zedmatrix> yea thats why for my iso project i am using GCC 14.2.0
14:08:50 <SuperPizza> It's doable, but reuqires some environemnt variables.
14:32:41 <zedmatrix> nsITobin: i finally wrote a chroot script https://gitlab.com/zed-linuxfromscratch/live-iso/-/blob/main/zlfs-chroot.sh?ref_type=heads
14:33:51 <nsITobin> that's some nice coding there.. seems very close to what I wrote LOL.. uhh MIT licence..
14:33:53 <nsITobin> k?
14:35:03 <nsITobin> i want to make my default licence just MIT .. as much as I love the MPL .. i don't love mozilla anymore
14:35:31 <zedmatrix> yea i liked your function names
14:36:46 <zedmatrix> but i also added the sys/efi one if some one follows the blfs - grub  root early
14:36:52 <SuperPizza> I made a similar, but shorter script
14:37:27 <zedmatrix> i figure i might as well finally make one script instead of 3 
14:37:33 <nsITobin> well the script i wrote was based on the lfs book but setup to run dnf installroot for fedora and other redhat based disasters i mean distributions
14:37:44 <nsITobin> then i made it conditional for that OR lfs
14:37:49 <nsITobin> now it is just for lfs again
14:37:50 <nsITobin> lol
14:39:18 <zedmatrix> yea there is arch-chroot > https://github.com/archlinux/arch-install-scripts/blob/master/arch-chroot.in
14:43:24 <nsITobin> here is the linuxnt version of the script with the dnf installroot bit if it is /mnt/sysroot https://dpaste.org/P0Wj3
14:43:28 <nsITobin> zedmatrix SuperPizza 
14:44:30 <nsITobin> based on the lfs book and https://glacion.com/2019/06/16/Fedora.html but i eliminated the systemd nspawn bs part
14:45:02 <nsITobin> pretty simple when you eliminate installing their kernel, grub, and initramfs
14:45:10 <SuperPizza> I use a qcow2 image to store the being-built system
14:45:39 <nsITobin> i do more cleanroom or clean build proceedures when i share for dist.. for me.. fuck it, we're doin it live!
14:45:46 <SuperPizza> I can just copy the imaghe as a backup
14:45:47 <nsITobin> preferably with zedmatrix's new livecd
14:45:50 <nsITobin> ;)
14:46:55 <SuperPizza> modprobe nbd --max-part=8; qemu-nbd --connect=/dev/nvd0 /path/to/lfs.qcow2; sudo mount ...
14:46:59 <nsITobin> SuperPizza: I am also invested in windows imaging technology.. wim files.. as well in rpm.. and basically being a twisted computer fundamentalist dos/nt user
14:47:23 <SuperPizza> :D
14:48:22 <zedmatrix> you need 8 partitions :)
14:49:12 <SuperPizza> no, 3; ESP, root, swap. For now atleast
14:49:23 <zedmatrix> i just use this> sudo modprobe nbd nbds_max=2 max_part=4
14:49:38 <SuperPizza> sure
14:50:40 <nsITobin> modprobe.. everyone should build their own kernel and everyone should build modules into the kernel imo
14:50:57 <SuperPizza> And I'm not doing LFS the easy weay...
14:51:59 <zedmatrix> its just so easy to just fire up qemu , instead of building on a loop device
14:52:46 <SuperPizza> ... because I replace a few packages with alternatives.
14:54:05 <SuperPizza> yea
14:56:41 <SuperPizza> Ever thought of NOT using Glibc?
14:57:27 <SuperPizza> You'll get it done, with minor changes, until you touch Systemd.
14:57:32 <zedmatrix> that might be a good root maybe for a live iso 
14:57:44 <zedmatrix> maybe use sys-v
14:57:55 <SuperPizza> But Udev?
14:58:15 <SuperPizza> Okay, there's eudev too
14:58:16 <zedmatrix> maybe rc ? 
14:59:22 <SuperPizza> Yes, I'm attempting to make a working LFS uner Musl. And some other bits
15:00:56 <zedmatrix> maybe i should use include... du -h --max-depth=1 --exclude=/{dev,home,media,mnt,proc,run,sources,srv,sys,tmp,var,zbuild} / so far 4G no strip
15:00:56 <SuperPizza> I know Alpimne and stuff exists (which is helpful)
15:03:13 <zedmatrix> hmm there is our culprit... 1.9G    /usr/libexec/gcc
15:03:25 <SuperPizza> Wow
15:03:35 <SuperPizza> `strip` that
15:03:38 <zedmatrix> that is gcc 14.2
15:04:14 <SuperPizza> probably a ton of debuginfo there
15:05:50 <zedmatrix> oops should run 8.85 clean up first
15:06:57 <SuperPizza> I don't havbe Python... oops
15:15:17 <zedmatrix> omg 123M    /usr/libexec/gcc
15:15:27 <nsITobin> what about mdev? or mdevd?
15:15:59 <nsITobin> the only thing I want from the creator of systemd.. is pulseaudio
15:16:11 <nsITobin> that thing people are replacing with rust
15:16:29 <nsITobin> pulseaudio is a good program
15:16:35 <nsITobin> well made and works well
15:16:38 <nsITobin> not had any issues
15:16:56 <nsITobin> .. one of the few things not to have one issue whatsoever
15:17:38 <zedmatrix> ahh its part of busybox
15:17:57 <zedmatrix> maybe thats y gentoo has busybox in their live
15:20:30 <nsITobin> mdevd just listens to the netlink
15:20:41 <nsITobin> https://github.com/skarnet/mdevd
15:22:16 <nsITobin> https://skarnet.org/software/mdevd/
15:22:58 <zedmatrix> ok gcc still works, just built which 
15:23:26 <nsITobin> i might rip the code from skalibs that mdevd needs and have it actually be a self contained project
15:23:34 <nsITobin> when i get around to it
15:32:41 <zedmatrix> hmm it can handle hotplug too
15:43:22 <SuperPizza> I shrunk my 4.8G image to *only* 1012MiB!
15:43:45 <SuperPizza> Hmmm
15:48:47 <zedmatrix> imagine if you use sqauashfs
15:49:42 <zedmatrix> the lfs root = 2.2G
16:00:15 <SuperPizza> After some playing around, 991MiB without resizing the main part!
16:01:37 <SuperPizza> Sorry, it's still resized
16:02:43 <SuperPizza> 992MiB when restored
16:03:04 <APic> ♥