00:22:08 <zedmatrix> nsITobin: no you cant have it , its owned by me :)
00:23:30 <nsITobin> TELL you what zedmatrix you can have the systemd/wayland part and I will take the sysvinit/x11
00:25:13 <zedmatrix> haa haa
00:26:26 <zedmatrix> and i take the musl/mdevd
00:26:43 <nsITobin> hey hey HEY now
00:26:49 <nsITobin> we can SHARE toolchains
00:26:58 <nsITobin> and utils
00:29:26 <zedmatrix> ok lets see how chapter 8 goes
00:29:59 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: maybe you should stream your screen and throw some chiptunes in the background or some dark electronica.. i'd watch it
00:34:24 <zedmatrix> nobody has yet 
00:34:58 <zedmatrix> tho maybe that was the problem i didnt have the music
00:35:21 <nsITobin> yeah
00:35:38 <nsITobin> i dunno something to do/try
00:35:42 <zedmatrix> i guess i gotta download the rest of the packages :)
00:36:14 <zedmatrix> i meant i had no watchers, but i only had a live stream for 20 min
00:37:24 <nsITobin> well need to find some freaks into watching someone else work their computer box.. they ARE out there
00:37:31 <nsITobin> then start streaming
00:39:21 <zedmatrix> so this is the temp tool -sources> 539951100 Jun 19 10:58 lfs-musl-temptools-r12.3-71.tar.xz
00:43:29 <zedmatrix> god i wish i had wrote that zlfs-chroot script along time ago :)
00:43:43 <nsITobin> yeah it is damned useful isn't it
00:43:50 <nsITobin> even my LESS PEFFECT version
00:48:23 <zedmatrix> well i just added the mkdir command to the prechoot
00:48:27 <zedmatrix> *chroot
00:49:33 <nsITobin> i still don't understand why can't ch 7 be built outside the chroot
00:56:47 <zedmatrix> i think its a toolchain test, plus python/perl install a bunch of crap 
01:22:59 <zedmatrix> hmm zlib built really fast 
01:23:07 <zedmatrix> and short
01:58:22 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: I continue to adhoc the hell out of this https://gitlab.com/binaryoutcast/snowball-os/baseos/-/blob/TRUNK/scratch/stage1/tasks/1001-binutils?ref_type=heads
01:58:46 <nsITobin> i will have to do a backup image before I test it out tho
01:59:00 <nsITobin> just need to get the rest transcribed 
01:59:10 <nsITobin> it isn't that many so wouldn't take too long
01:59:32 <nsITobin> i should really use a seperate file and source those vars
01:59:36 <nsITobin> but meh
02:03:13 <zedmatrix> this is an option i didnt use > --enable-default-hash-style=gnu
02:03:42 <nsITobin> i don't have reason or .. enlightenment to change it
02:03:56 <nsITobin> and in that case.. i .. say it with me.. follow the book
02:03:58 <nsITobin> :P
02:11:51 <zedmatrix> hmm found this https://www.gnu.org/software/ed/ed.html
02:12:06 <zedmatrix> oh i meant for the musl build
02:40:14 <nsITobin> https://gitlab.com/binaryoutcast/snowball-os/baseos/-/blob/TRUNK/README.md
02:40:24 <nsITobin> i wrote a small readme
02:40:53 <nsITobin> wait
02:40:56 <nsITobin> fuckion markdown
02:41:41 <nsITobin> fixed
03:06:42 <zedmatrix> so have you built it yet? or are you just writing docs :)
03:23:38 <nsITobin> i've built the pre-ch8 system manually of course.. i built 8+ by those scripts .. and i have built a couple RPMs.. i am ready to do the everything of those items
03:23:40 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: 
03:24:29 <nsITobin> one of the main ways I work is get completely comfortable with a thing then extrapolate the hell out of it to get the rest
03:25:04 <nsITobin> so no i haven't made anything end to end yet i had to make sure the ducks were in a row first
03:25:17 <nsITobin> i am catching up
03:25:57 <nsITobin> i mean i have been busy, i was ill, one of my cats passed away and I am trying to be all 1998 with 2020s code
03:26:04 <nsITobin> it is a lot to juggle
03:28:55 <nsITobin> i wrote the readme mainly to focus my efforts now that I have figured out the bits i need to do or extrapolate from to do the rest
03:29:05 <nsITobin> and not redesign it again
03:29:07 <nsITobin> lol
03:29:48 <zedmatrix> lol i was kinda kidding, docs are good so you can re-produce it :)
03:31:01 <nsITobin> I am gonna rest now tho
03:31:05 <nsITobin> moar tomorrow
16:15:12 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: how's the quest for zmusl going?
16:16:11 <nsITobin> i am manually transcribing the ch 5 right now into those scripts
16:16:29 <zedmatrix> updating the host gentoo first, only 190 packages :)
16:27:10 <zedmatrix> just pushed the progress so far> https://github.com/zedmatrix/ZBuild-System/tree/main/LFS-gcc15-musl
16:28:22 <nsITobin> do me a favor.. write in the main readme what these directories mean and a quick how to use it nothin fancy
16:30:13 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: your scripts are very nice
16:30:19 <nsITobin> mine are less nice
16:30:26 <nsITobin> cause i was initally lazy
16:32:19 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: if this was a race to the finish you're gonna win
16:35:17 <zedmatrix> well you see i create a base script to copy over for the next... tho i am copying and pasting individual commands for debugging
16:35:52 <zedmatrix> you see no mention of lfs user?... i didnt use one
16:41:29 <zedmatrix> they have come alot since the meatball bash i started with :)
16:55:58 <Moody> a lfs user never was required. if your env is setup properly, it works fine. It is used as too many ppl do use root cause there are no permission issues. Too dangerous knowing ppl do damage their systems from time to time. So a unpriv. user can help minimizing damage
17:09:24 <zedmatrix> sup Moody? also good having an non-persistent build env :)
17:13:56 <Moody> sure, but who does setup such an env when beginning with LFS?  They do after a "rm -rf $LFS/" ran out of control with an unset $LFS...
17:20:10 <zedmatrix> gcc build day, host is updating 14.3.0 and vm musl finalizing gcc-15.1
19:06:44 <zedmatrix> nsITobin: gcc-15-musl sofar https://bpa.st/NAPQ
19:58:48 <nsITobin> sorry zedmatrix had to go out back now well isn't that more failures than is allowed? thought it was 12
20:05:56 <zedmatrix> well with that many passes, 38 is nothing
20:06:28 <zedmatrix> its doing the big one, conformance libstdc++
20:26:08 <zedmatrix> hmm -Os will probably take longer on the tests
20:57:55 <zedmatrix> nsITobin: looks like a good summ https://0x0.st/8IfX.txt
21:48:50 <zedmatrix> looks pretty good> https://0x0.st/8IfB.c
22:53:19 <nsITobin> zedmatrix: see PM
22:56:08 <nsITobin> so much for my distro
23:55:55 <nsITobin> I'm not gonna spill my personal life into this channel i have already done that elsewhere but suffice it to say things for me have become a lot more dicy and my federal support system is in flux and likely collapsing