zedmatrix: gitlab.com/binaryoutcast/snowball-o…fe0702931155078f4f0635bd39c91efcbc9

those are all symlinks

i should just remove man pages

just filter them out

i never use the man command

i find it hard to use

nsITobin: sup ?

just posting progress zed_lfs

glibc tzdata and ncurses is done..ish

lol

sure i will have to make more corrections later but yeah rpm spec files are being written now

just on my bedroom lfs-tv :)

cool

this is the one with KF6

i like the xscreensavers

i dislike jwz

i mean i respect what he accomplished up until the point he stopped bothering

but modern jwz is a piece of garbage

i like xscreensavers too

zed_lfs: hope you like not having xscreensavers tho

that ain't gonna work in xwayland

in a kde env

you crazy

lol

tv tv tv sports sports sports fedora GO THE FUCK HOME

lol

its not kde, its lxqt

with kf6

lxqt is very immature

and i have konsole, konversation and kate

I'm sorry.

:P

KDE for when you want the shittiest aspects of Windows without waiting for Microsoft to finish stripping out all the good parts!

or for those who like 800 different ways to change the taskbar none of them obvious

lxqt was really disappointing for me

i find lxqt really nice, after i configure it my way

gtk2 has the highest potental for a fork-ecosystem with a rich back categlog and best possibility for eventual maintainabiliy..

tho i am using your dreaded systemd :)

the more people profess systemd the more I just want an autoexec.sh to do my bootup

the more people profess selinux the more i want to do as root

i like the xeyes on the task bar they follow the mouse :)

eyes is cool but check your cpuz

i use lxterminal gtk2 version.. seems to work the best especially when pasting shit from the wbe

web

zedmatrix: Good morning.. so yeah NOW i am in the stage where I just one by one make spec files until they work times about 90

... to get to end-of-book state

forgot this in my spec file cause already done in pre-8 gitlab.com/binaryoutcast/snowball-o…bc/package.spec?ref_type=heads#L111

also needed to override the libdir for rpm to be /usr/lib NOT /usr/lib64

so yeah zedmatrix it is more a port of the book to rpm not a fork of the book ;)

nsITobin: yea i now have a thought of using a single build_stage.sh to init all 3 stages

if you chroot to your stage2 script and stage2 chains to stage3 you can do it from the host

i just haven't explored it yet

from the host in one command

I may yet do spec files for the pre-system and get rpmbuild to build those two but i have to get there first

so either way my half-assed bash scripts would have served their purpose

issue is doing an rpmbuild from el8 will have CRAP involved so it has to be done from something more agnostic

also i found a little issue, the passwd root from shadow page

i need to just switch to bash instead of that makefile.. just isn't doing it for me

maybe try that chroot pass

to stage2

yea i booted lastnight and forgot to add that

so i figure i need readline then bash then coreutils then resume book order

so that %post scripts work

but i am trimming to use a single build_stage like this bpa.st/G64Q

i think i will simply have the end of stage 1 chroot into the system running the script to build stage2 and exit from the chroot exiting the script ready for me to go back in and do stage3 likely using the same process it could become adhoc-automated

lol

i think some manual might be required /wanted

something to put on the project page or subdomain

i dunno if i should use a subdomain or just treat it like any other project

snowball.binoclabs.com could work

since it is grander than any normal binoc project

fuckin math... now i know how much money i have

.. i have 31 dollars

for the rest of the month

yea i guess i should get a domain for this

it would make having 2 webhosts more useful :)

zedmatrix: webhost or a vps host

cause I have vpses

webhost, i havent looked into vps' much

zedmatrix: I need a universal package metadata format

you have the rpmspec, or do you want to change that?

well yes but I'd have to use rpm spec tools to query it

which I can do

but

it would be nice to have a format i could preprocess into spec form that is more universal

not nessisarily the build parts or even file parts but just the metadata

I mean if i look at it from an rpmbuild first perspective i could build up through the install point and code up a macro to just tar it up and stick it somewhere .. but the spec format its self is not entirely optimal

but that is ok

zedmatrix: remi has a plugin in pecl for php to query an rpm database and rpms them selves.. but it is pretty limited to that tho it could be expanded..

I just don't get why did they pick lua as an internal language

why not some form of shell script

but..

ok now 45 min til i can test phase 2

nsITobin: ok testing my chroot tester, but now i got like 40 min

:P

sofar i have zirconium-1.01.tar.xz to build LFS

its 8.6mb

i am gonna revise the process some more

before continuing with spec files

i have 2 files you need on any iso to prepare the environment after you choose a fs layout

nsITobin: i dunno if i should be like setup an MBR or UEFI layout or not

that is installer stuff LOL

i am not there yet

i am just wondering how much i want to leave upto the user

zedmatrix: i just set 256COLOR.BMP to my wallpaper

it is ridiculous spanned across my monitors

tiled*

i have 3 different wall papers for each monitor

cool --stdin in passwd

zedmatrix: just went back to win2k blue which makes dark windows stand out massively

you mean the dark blue tiles? tumblr.com/sama-kun/181802929040/ad…emes-win2k-theme-choose-between-one

zedmatrix: i.ibb.co/WpjjGggV/image.png

i have forest on one

of course on MY distro least the me-sku of it will just have gtk2 qt3 and everything will look like win2k

eliminate the csd and patch programs.. and give modified gtk3 the same treatment

.. dunno about qt5 .. guess get it to be gtk2 styled

i see no reason for gtk4 or qt6

each of these runtime toolkits and their more modern versions should be globally brought into alignment

like mine 0x0.st/8dYp.png

i like how winamp3 skin matches a modified artwiz-boxed with the colors from a gtk3 theme

well a few shades and degrees of hue off

but CLOSE ENOUGH

first stage done in *** 00 Hours, 43 Minutes and 24 Seconds ***

this skeuos-dark style is the nicest and most consistant ive seen.. If the light version was grey and not stark white i'd use it as well but yeah dakr has good contrast .. light is just eye peircing

a good grey would do wonders

... but i would settle for redmond style if EVERYTHING used it

and not a fuckin 80px tall fake caption bar csd either

consistant.. proper.. enough i could work it without my glasses or drunk as fuck

takes me 20 min to do my stage 1 and about 45 min to do my stage 2 but it is not a complete bootable system.. just most of one for the sake of rpm and building packages

... need some fuckin super multi-layered clusterized basterization ... i'll show them!

there got it bpa.st/2Q6A

nsITobin:

i see

i also have the build_stage script callable with 1..6 bpa.st/XB6A

so then the installer just has call those functions and check the return

chapter 7: *** 00 Hours, 11 Minutes and 27 Seconds *** no errors

zedmatrix: are you doing LFS as gentoo?

essentually

like I am doing lfs as redhat?

i am doing LFS as LFS

yeah but your zbuild system

and it going from source to an installed system

yep the package def is loosely based on arch

from source

i like the differences in approch people take to lfs as a sustainable system for them selves or as a distro to share systemd and kde not withstanding :P

zedmatrix: why arch inspired touches?

why not more gentoo like but simpler

need them sweet sweet USE flags

don't you?

:P

well i got into reading the arch pkgbuilds to packages not in BLFS

and i think portage is primarily python based

i just wish i started 20 years ago

python based systems are dooned to death or refactor purgatory

same with rust

actually

and c++ is just a gateway these days to move C to Rust

need some oil..

i like using a c/c++ based to isolate the functions from the build system and packages

you should stick to C++98 to protest

during my bash lfs building, i've run into variable conflicts

zedmatrix: couldn't control the env for your subshells?

for instance libvpx in blfs kept failing.... turned out it was "

$BUILD"

PREFIX!

ZBUILD_BUILD

hence why i have started prefixing vars with z or zz

i very much feel comfortable claiming vast areas of globalspace but it comes with a responsibility..

i am responsible for ensuring no collisions

which is good decent percise work

but its always been a breeze starting from a clean LFS base

I am a component of the full working system.. it is to serve me and I command it. ... that didn't extrapolate well outside my computer truth be told

zedmatrix: found a good use for the /srv directory locally

good place to mount sshfs to my servers

yea ive put my www in there for my {,b}lfs books

also great to play around with css /html

i should get back into cgi and py/php see how much i remember

i need to remix my php 7.4 fork i am gonna remove some crap and add some crap from pecl to start with plus renaming it to phobia

php is important to me but php 8+ is only bent to the big framework projects.. and the language is changing to be less like the php you know the flavor is being drained out of it.. and it has been impacted by whatwg specs .. i have dozens of reasons

some of them are valid

enough to do it ;)

upto gcc-15 now

that is beyond the stable version of the book

i have been burned by gcc before

i do NOT trust new versions of it

ive built gcc-15 with both dev and stable and using musl :)

i'd rather compile everything with gcc 10 or some shit

actually I'd LIKE to compile everything with gcc 4.7

i have a custom by the book musl-gcc-15 -mdevd

this master script is probably usable by any build system

nsITobin:

hardstatus off

caption always " %{-b ..}%-w%{+b ..}%{bd}[ %{kd} %n%f*%t %{bd}]%{-}%+w %=%{bd}[ %{kd}%Y-%m-%d %c:%s %{bd}] "

termcapinfo xterm* ti@:te@

wha

yeah

zedmatrix: what I really should spend the rest of the day doing is organizing my files and reclaiming space from haphazard file transfers and drive recovery dups

and prep for a system transfer from my el8-screwover system to my rpm-lfs system

i am dumping some of my custom habits

nsITobin: yea i did that the other day, move some unused vm files into storage

I am over coming up with mountpoints and shit for my whole harddrives.. so i settled on /mnt/DRIVE_{D,E,M}

it isn't original but my brain will instantly know what the fuck drive it is and generally what is stored on it

one of my network mounts is Potassium :)

i am giving up on boring mounts too like c..d..e..

well if I have a DRIVE_C it will be a bare metal windows install

but i may just stop bothering

i can recover linux much easier from linux

but i can't even trust windows now not to just delete my bootloader

and replace it with its own

at ANY TIME

....

Windows is already .. alive.. giving it full AI will create a fuckin AI God.. a retarded and vengeful one

yea my windows 10 keeps wanting to upgrade to 11

i will not accept wayland for the justification of running WINDOWS GAMES

also wine is terrible software and i think it is on purpose

it's been 32 fucking years and it still can't run software from 32 fucking years ago properly

tho if i take the time to setup wine/crossover i bet my "last windows app" will work

all the junk i'd use wine for outside 7zip, notepad++ and winamp.. just doesn't work or doesn't work worth a shit

tho it is nice to have a windows machine around to aide others

i can't help people with modern windows

it stopped making sense when metro happened

and everything changes around every few releases

and all the old points are being systamtaically removed

windows is a fuckin disaster

metro was a big mistake , hence y it was short lived in 8

metro is still everywhere

just cause they changed the name

...

i know a fuck ton about windows internals

which all stopped being useful when they started removing shit and protecting the fuckin dll files

just be glad bob never made it :)

if all my software worked on windows 2000.. i'd still be using windows 2000

i would say bob is worse then 8

a lot of microsoft design patents have long expired.. like the win16 and chicago interface

nice finished... Changing password for root && passwd: password changed. && *** 01 Hours, 21 Minutes and 02 Seconds ***

Documents -> /mnt/DRIVE_D/ Music -> /mnt/DRIVE_M/Music/ Projects -> /mnt/DRIVE_E/ Videos -> /mnt/DRIVE_M/Videos/

as it was on NT

so shall it be on Linux

zedmatrix: you could compile 2 UXP programs in that time!