00:23:49 <nsITobin> All these squares make a circle.
00:23:50 <nsITobin> All these squares make a circle.
00:23:50 <nsITobin> All these squares make a circle.
00:23:51 <nsITobin> Hi
00:47:48 <Sompi_> pi == 4
00:48:29 <nsITobin> 3.14185551212
00:48:42 <nsITobin> is my personal pi constant
00:49:17 <nsITobin> anything that long will have rounding errors anyway so who cares lol
00:50:10 <nsITobin> the real issue the joke was created before I understood enough to know what I just said is total bs
00:50:22 <tomman> Google will redefine Pi as 69 because the current value is known to offend someone
00:50:41 <nsITobin> and that is not offensive?
00:51:26 <tomman> don't worry, we'll revise it in 10 years
00:51:43 <tomman> also doesn't count if it is offensive in the Eu
00:51:47 <tomman> --EU
00:52:14 <tomman> but then they might have to define a EU-only version of Pi
00:52:28 <nsITobin> So tomman remember when I first said I was gonna experiment with using github pages?
00:52:38 <nsITobin> I'd say the experiment failed
00:52:40 <nsITobin> lol
01:05:58 <Sompi_> but if the circle is made of squares, then pi is 4
01:07:00 <nsITobin> true
01:07:36 <nsITobin> i was just reading it wrong
06:33:20 <CerebraNet> pi=3.8675309
08:49:01 <njsg> Sompi_: IIRC you did mention Traficom's self-service before
09:03:53 <njsg> tomman: no, any server will be easy to secure, just plug in a Logitech mouse with a built-in antivirus subscription
09:46:32 <njsg> tomman: also, how are things there? is there a stronger international message around this time, or is this just business as usual?
15:15:34 <tomman> njsg: there has been no shortage of Strong Words™, yes. Also, hope we have no regime spies here, or we can get 25 years of jail for saying Mean Things™ against the thugs
15:15:45 <tomman> ha, Logitech
15:16:03 <tomman> just installed MouseWare 8.2 on a ol' PC to enable the mouse wheel on Win95, since the mouse was also Logitech
15:16:06 <tomman> spoilers: it didn't work
15:17:17 <nsITobin> I deff need to write a bug tracker
15:17:27 <nsITobin> cause I can't have openregistration on my gogs instance
16:50:29 <jonadab> Regardless of manufacturer, I think a lot of scrollmice would potentially work with the MS IntelliMouse driver, which I _think_ is old enough to have been available for 95OSR2 before it went totally EOL.
16:51:10 <jonadab> Although, if you're using W95 for some reason, I can't imagine the lack of scroll-wheel support would be the biggest feature you'd be missing.
16:53:00 <jonadab> nsITobin: Try drawing a square on the surface of a sphere, with side length equal to one quarter of the circumference.
17:07:48 <njsg> Try to compute pi using some method that relies on division. Use an Intel Pentium.
17:16:56 <jonadab> Does "compute tau and then divide by two" count as a method that relies on division?
17:19:34 <njsg> as far as it gets to use FDIV in 80586, I'm happy :-P
17:19:46 <njsg> if it can be tweaked to hit the bug, even better.
17:20:12 <nsITobin> I like we are still on about that lol
17:23:38 <jonadab> Maybe tomorrow we will talk about Itanim and/or Gopher protocol.
17:23:47 <jonadab> *Itanium
17:24:04 <nsITobin> well gopher is the most on-topic of the lot
17:24:19 <nsITobin> cause SeaMonkey still has the capability to use a gopher extension
17:24:25 <nsITobin> assuming it isn't busted
17:25:32 <jonadab> *shrug* I assume SeaMonkey *could* be compiled for 80586, or for Itanium for that matter, if someone were inclined to bother.
17:26:04 <nsITobin> jonadab: not sure with some of the libs glued in
17:26:18 <nsITobin> you might have to find alternatives to really make it good
17:26:21 <nsITobin> or work at all
17:26:42 <jonadab> There are amd64-specific libs?  Does nobody use alternate architectures at all?  No arm for instance?
17:26:47 <njsg> jonadab: reminds me I have to put more stuff on the gopherhole :-P
17:27:29 <nsITobin> well if people code thinking you have avx instructions or better
17:27:40 <njsg> nsITobin: it requires modifying a call because of arity change in... InitPump? InitStream? - I faintly recall seeing a fork of Cameron Kaiser's repository with changes already.
17:27:40 <nsITobin> they may not care or specifically prevent doing older ttargets
17:28:26 <nsITobin> maybe I am thinking too strictly with OS support as well
17:28:56 <njsg> jonadab: I think wyatt8750 was already seeing trouble with that on powerpc, libraries and build systems that narrow down the supported platforms
17:30:08 <jonadab> OS support is trickier.  I would NOT expect to be able to compile SeaMonkey for Windows 95, for example.
17:30:34 <jonadab> Well, not a recent version of Seamonkey.  Old old versions, from back when the version numbers still started with M and Firefox had not been invented yet, maybe.
17:35:53 <njsg> a question is what'd be needed to compile for Windows 4. I'd be curious about that.
17:36:14 * njsg just wants an excuse to at some point install SeaMonkey 2.53 on Windows 98
18:05:37 <nsITobin> you know.. it doesn't take a lot to just make an off-the-shelf product just a little more useable.. https://i.ibb.co/C6rYFPg/image.png
18:15:40 <nsITobin> light look into codeburg's fork of gitea later if i need any of the more today-features
18:15:55 <nsITobin> gogs more or less sticks to basic github circa 2012ish
18:17:02 <nsITobin> i just don't wanna learn go lol
23:00:01 <nsITobin> njsg: I'd like to compile windows nt 3.51
23:55:54 <tomman> in the name of Nathan Lineback, DO IT :D
23:56:15 <nsITobin> can't busy hacking gogs
23:56:54 <nsITobin> I should fork it and add hg