12:23:41 youtube is breaking its self 12:24:51 so i been hit with some a/b testing that basically makes it so using my channel i can't watch any video that i don't navigate from the front page like an app first direct links and open in new tab just show the header with nothing.. sign out switch account switch channel it works 12:24:57 doesn't matter the browser 12:26:09 so basically youtube is a/b testing FULL appification ditching the pretense of being a website still as near as I can suspect.. others have been seeing it but its a small minority per normal and google is silent about it.. so yeah 14:01:28 in other news, Giggityhub and Giggitylab keep breaking themselves harder and harder as they just can't stop Pushing! Things! Forward! and deploying more stroke-inducing artery-clogging Chromeisms every month 14:01:46 if I worked there, I would have already quit 14:03:13 also: the trick to pass Clownflare Turnstile craptchas remains the same: get blank captcha, fire up devtools, threaten that empty box with the inspector, "oh, here is the checkbox lol" 14:03:28 well that's ok russia is gonna solve google with a 20 decillion fine so its all good right? 14:03:29 dunno exactly what's the deal there... 14:03:48 ha, poor poor shareholders 14:04:03 that is an impossible amount of money 14:04:11 this planet ain't even worth that much 14:04:14 can buy a few universes with that 14:04:33 tomman: why why WHY didn't they fine google a googol dollars 14:04:46 but hey, math hasn't been the same in Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union, so well, TWENTY BAZILLION DOLLORS 14:05:06 i mean if you are gonna go for an unrealistic number 14:05:15 ...I have horrible nightmares from those Soviet math books I used at college 14:05:17 why not go for the one that MAKES FUCKING SENSE IN CONTEXT 14:05:19 they were like Lunatic Mode 14:06:06 (had a classmate that loved them, he was our resident math nerd and the one dude that would willingly checkout those books at the library - the checkout cards only had his signature. The guy was... a bit insane, yes) 14:06:58 who the hell isn't these days 14:07:05 i went nuts years ago 14:07:14 actually doing better now 14:07:48 https://hexxagon.com/ "Please install Flash Player.. or not since we bundle Ruffle anyway, which doesn't work for you LOL" 15:09:47 Sompi: I'm... not impressed with what you say about the new finlex, but let me see... 15:10:16 "in printed PDF formats"... 15:11:31 Sompi: hmm, quick browsing works for me, maybe search won't. it's also possible it degrades well if javascript is diabled 15:11:50 s@ di@&s@ 15:12:59 I can't make search show results 15:15:18 Sompi: if it's not apparent, I'm reading the backlog and have now reached the part where you say the VRK has a list of browsers... 15:18:24 Sompi: so wait, the person who told you this works in the field but is *not* part of the public sector? I'm wondering, is this explicitly a list in the public sector, or something some companies use when doing work for the state? 15:34:30 njsg: Almost nothing works. For example, try changing the language - nothing happens. Also try clicking the huge banner on top of the page, nothing happens 15:34:39 Only JavaScript errors show up in the console 16:36:55 lol. mozillazine is getting a little testy due to SM issues on Mac 15.1. 17:53:01 therube Apple s*cks these days. Third time in a row that they broke SeaMonkey with major releases. This one is probably due to missing signing information but its an apple problem. I don't have time to set upo a notarization process with these a-holes. More security is good but not this way. 17:53:29 PM likewise affected 17:55:20 tons of other programs too 18:01:08 I'm surprised I didn't see jwz commenting about that yet 18:01:30 he usually also complains about these issues on his blog and so on 18:03:01 ... ah, another OOM. Doesn't help that I was using firefox for PDF reading... 18:03:53 ... oh wait 18:04:05 the problem might be I thought I had opened Firefox but I opened Chrome. 18:41:11 therube Well then maybe Brian will figure it out. Was about to contact him but now that pm has the same problem he will know :) 18:43:25 https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=31769 18:58:54 I am pretty sure the apply fanboys will contine to blame anyone but apple. 19:09:36 APPLE!!! 19:13:30 * nsITobin to wicknix_ 19:13:31 feel free to help the SeaMonkey cause 21:43:57 xdg is stupid as hell.. its broken mime execution, defaulting to the default web browser, it is annoying to configure and desktop files and menu files are dumb as hell.. 22:00:57 don't forget to add distro-specific enchantments to the mix 22:01:07 Debian alternatives system is MOSTLY sane... and also Debian-specific