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nsITobin
ALL WHATWG MEMBERS SUFFER FROM attention deficit hypertext activity disorder SO SAYS THE ME!
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njsg
7clrh
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njsg
well well, more coffee, less spaces, and more shift on the seven
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Sompi
why almost every webpage spams the browser console full of some weird "Port opened ... Port closed" lines
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Sompi
This started just some weeks ago
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nsITobin
i want to know why seamonkey's add-ons manager just did a search request on all my installed extensions
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nsITobin
not an update request a search request
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nsITobin
of course it failed cause thunderbird is sending json back
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nsITobin
they must have at some point rewrote the API without bumping the endpoint version because amov4 api expects json
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nsITobin
feels very 2014 and 2018 right now looking at this and I don't .. like it.
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tomman
needs moar JSON
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nsITobin
still doesn't answer WHY the add-ons manager issued an unsolicited search query.. UXP doesn't do that. and I didn'
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nsITobin
t open the add-ons manager so it isn't discover pane telemetry
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nsITobin
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nsITobin
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nsITobin
THIS is why we need a new protocol
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nsITobin
the entire suite of web technology is transfered to whatwg
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nsITobin
whatwg is just corperations..
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nsITobin
not people
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nsITobin
not users.. investors
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nsITobin
there is no standards body for the web..
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nsITobin
the fact whatwg pricably operates off github means MICROSOFT gets to decide who can participate in standards
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nsITobin
of which I can't
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nsITobin
now
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nsITobin
people always go on about how ignorant i sound (outside of here) the point is i only learn what I need to because if I learn it all I will A) have an opinion on it and B) likely be pissed off about it.
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nsITobin
and C try and change it.
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nsITobin
learning == conflict
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tomman
I thought WhatWG was "Google and some partners" :D
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nsITobin
Google yeah but Google isn't in the best position going forward..
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nsITobin
remember the DOJ shit
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nsITobin
Microsoft has been pushing more and more on the whole AI and http/3 etc
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nsITobin
google gets anything microsoft does for free
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nsITobin
and microsoft can do it because google is now the fall guy
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nsITobin
I told you months ago that Microsoft is making a lot of familar moves
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nsITobin
in impl and in the ether
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tomman
be glad Oracle doesn't contribute to the web standards, or we would be all slaves for Larry :D
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nsITobin
I have a theory.. if Google goes down Mozilla will be flooded with employees .. as an ad company and the even still but just barely superior technology.. Mozilla is google powered direct google no longer exists.. Microsoft has a browser engine and web dominance.. and ibm has an operating system
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nsITobin
welcome to the cyber-reset
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nsITobin
to y2k
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nsITobin
that's the real y2k bug.. tech companies repeating the same shit over and over again
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nsITobin
US VS Russia Microsoft vs Internet.. what kind of twisted nostagia powers these forces?
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tomman
I blame television
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nsITobin
I always envisioned the new millennium as building on the BEST of the previous and we did.. for about 7-8 years
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nsITobin
i wanted more.. LCARS and less Telescreen personally
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tomman
Star Trek had flip phones, not glass fondleslabs
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tomman
I miss my RAZRs :/
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nsITobin
well starfleet devices at least understood touch shit needs a fuckin bezel around it
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nsITobin
so you don't accidently click on any Ferengi ads
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nsITobin
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nsITobin
food and food history > me bitching about tech history
youtube.com/watch?v=q5Nk0evkBpE
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nsITobin
I always wondered what a sugar plum was tho i always knew they weren't plums
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frg
And now in os from yesterday news ms fixed the sandbox problem in 2008 R2 today:
support.microsoft.com/help/5048695
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nsITobin
why do they keep patching 2k8r2?
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nsITobin
i mean other than it is the superior codebase despite lacking some later kernel tweaks
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nsITobin
the supreme windows server.. uhh vista take 2 server.. HEY IT WORKS DON'T IT?! lol
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frg_Away
premium assurance till 2026. Same for 2008 I think. So Windows 7 till 2026 too :)
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nsITobin
Microsoft was so much better when they embraced "Hey it works, don't it?" design
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nsITobin
boy i hate how everyone keeps bumpping deps past EL8's versions
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nsITobin
and some stuff I can't just rpmbuild to update..
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nsITobin
swear to god I am gonna figure out how to do a STATIC COMPILED linux from scratch .. so sick of dephell
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nsITobin
or just admit defeat and go BSD
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nsITobin
how is SeaMonkey on UNIX_BUT_NOT_MAC?
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frg_Away
I think it builds. Can't test and won't but every time I find a reasonable patch I apply it.
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frg_Away
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nsITobin
i see
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frg_Away
I think someone got it building on 14 too but not sure.
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frg_Away
we now have a git log in searchfox central and as expected its crap compared to the hg one.
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nsITobin
frg_Away: better off using shithub to traverse into the various dimentions
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nsITobin
oh i see
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nsITobin
it is JUST doing commit history on file
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nsITobin
YEAH that doesn't always tell the full story especially since github does NOT follow renames and git its self isn't always great at figuring out a rename from a new file
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nsITobin
frg_Away:
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nsITobin
and not away
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frg_Away
frg_Away is on two computers...
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nsITobin
well i'd setup a znc for us all to use but then I'd have to like be all nice and respectful to libera staff to make it work properly and not be abanned and that is very taxing
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nsITobin
basically the trick on github to traverse renames and into .. alt-but-from-hg-and-cvs-not-visable-history-streams is a process of traversing known files and swapping to a parent commit to find it again and repeating..
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nsITobin
when the history splits tho even historing a now gone file won't show it existed but if you go back far enough you can get to where you can see it
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nsITobin
.. I have had a decade head start on figuring out gecko-dev history from a git perspective after all :P
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nsITobin
I will make sure that MY git viewer follows renames
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njsg
1210|15:42:52 <+nsITobin> anyone ever read [...] <-- well, it says WHATWG, so... is it light reading or for a drinking game?
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nsITobin
lol thank you for that njsg
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njsg
2008R2 still having support should really, really be highlighted to, say, Google, who insist in saying "Windows 7" is not supported.
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njsg
(Why do they even do that? How did Google manage to mangle that check? After all, NT 6.1 isn't just 7...)
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nsITobin
njsg: that has only been true sometimes.. also different channels servers are often not supported by desktop software regardless of the nonsense.. just like windows clients can only have 2 physical cpus and 32bit windows has ram restrictions while 32bit server has working pae
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nsITobin
and today the server and client are split again