15:54:37 https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/12/patreon/ "we fixed a bug on our CSS, but next time Just Use Chrome®" 15:57:45 and if google chrome goes away there is edge and if edge goes away there is opera and if opera goes away there is vivaldi if vivaldi goes away then there is brave and if brave goes away there is safari and if you don't have a mac.. there is firefox.. that's still just 3 steps despite the number 15:58:49 when most of the choices are identical or The Exact Same(tm) rejection of an alterntive like SeaMonkey just illistrates complicity 16:01:20 ooooof 17:46:52 btw anyone interested in the whole Tobin talks to the W3C thing.. its RESOLVED WONTFIX suggesting I need to take it up with Microsoft. 17:51:02 what is peoples opinion on windows ameliorated? 17:51:52 Windows 10 is still a licensed product. 17:52:14 However, Windows 10 can be installed without a key 17:53:27 the technology is just an impl of ansible just for windows.. and likely slotting it in with a thin autounattended install.. but do they supply the iso? 17:54:51 also looks dead franstam 17:55:35 the git server seems down and the presskit 404s 17:55:40 soooo 17:55:50 what do I think? I don't like ansible 17:55:52 nsITobin, as much as i despise "it works on chrome" similar to ur statement on chrome -> edge -> opera -> vivaldi and all its clones 17:56:43 i recall someone had something against ameliorated back in the day, was it tobin or other? 17:56:46 yeah no gitserver 17:57:03 I am of the nlite side 17:57:23 post-install tasks are far less than modified isos already done. 17:57:49 i hate having stuff forced down my throat even by ltsc 17:58:06 now ansible for windows essentually its a good idea in theory but what would be better is actually adapting ansible for windows extending ansible to more target platforms 17:58:44 but that's just subtle redhat propaganda instilled by using anything redhat .. 18:05:05 ... take it up to Microsoft in a thing re: the W3C? I guess irony *is* dead. 18:06:05 Yes the W3C told me to take my issue to microsoft regarding my github account where most activities take place. 18:06:49 so the W3C can't run a gitlab instance or just use gitlab.com rather than this conflict of intrest? 18:07:25 or gogs or codeburg's thing or gitea 18:07:34 the w3c also uses cloudflare 18:11:09 oh well 18:14:45 I also learned that while the W3C and contributors retain copyright on the specifications as in the expression to that text and barring some edge case patent thing.. w3c does not and cannot claim ownership of the ideas and concepts behind that specification nor claim anything for a new original spec being written about an implimentation even if the impl was created using their spec. To avoid all possible avenues for trying to shut down stuff I may 18:14:46 put out I will simply document the classical MOZILLA impl as I see fit. 18:15:50 the only remaining tidbits are to actually do the work and get others to reconize it.. that last part is a problem.