05:26:19 <Megaweapon> Any solve to Startpage search plugin just taking you to their website now instead of giving results?  They say they're no longer supporting this: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/startpage-https-privacy-search/
15:42:11 <Sompi> I tried to investigate via the inspector how that Cloudflare's "Verify you are human" thing works, but it seems to be just an empty <div></div> element without any content
15:42:20 <Sompi> And no JS errors in the console
15:51:53 <tomman> does the box populates with an actual checkbox and stuff when you "inspect" the empt space?
15:51:55 <tomman> --empty
15:52:13 <tomman> and yes, that thing apparently exploits a bunch of borderline JS and CSS crap
15:52:22 <Sompi> no
15:52:27 <Sompi> nothing happens when I inspect it
15:53:32 <Sompi> it's just an empty div
16:02:33 <Sompi> and after a while it goes to debugger and the debugger says "TypeError: g[h][gL(...)] is not a function"
16:05:54 <tomman> OK, noticed something really screwy rearding that
16:06:08 <tomman> Opened a site that always trigger Clownflare's "you human?" challenge
16:06:26 <tomman> I get a white box where the checkbox should be, inspector tells me it's an empty <div> at the end
16:06:42 <tomman> however... the mere act of triggering the inspector there causes the checkbox to render. So far, so normal
16:06:44 <tomman> BUT
16:07:05 <tomman> trying to inspect the actual checkbox and its friends... yield no results on the DOM tree!
16:07:21 <tomman> I mean, the Inspector can find the checkbox or its companion text or the Clownflare logo
16:07:48 <tomman> but it fails to find anything on the document tree, and if you go back to the source view there.... the empty <div> is still empty, despite now having childrens!
16:07:54 <tomman> that's... creepy
16:08:37 <Sompi> Maybe the "checkbox" is really somewhere else and it shares the same absolute position with the empty div
16:09:11 <tomman> whatever it does, it's confusing the inspector real badly
16:09:15 <Sompi> I mean that it is somewhere else in the source tree but it has position:absolute;
16:10:02 <Sompi> Try disabling CSS, maybe it jumps to somewhere else on the page
16:10:23 <Sompi> I cannot get it to show the checkbox at all. Probably something with my IP
16:17:31 <tomman> are you using the release version, or a recent nightly?
16:18:27 <Sompi> release
16:19:14 <tomman> could be that then, I'm using the nightlies