00:09:37 <Harzilein> <grey_gandalf_> right now, I'm more with spirits than with coffee
00:09:49 <Harzilein> coffee was popular today in chats i attended
00:10:06 <Harzilein> but yeah i missed at least one opportunity to booze
00:11:26 <grey_gandalf_> Harzilein: enjoying some excellent Grappa right now
00:11:33 <grey_gandalf_> as soon as I fnish my shot, bed will call
00:13:07 <Harzilein> oh, yeah, that
00:13:09 <Harzilein> well
00:14:55 <Harzilein> it seems one can't get it in urban contexts, specialty retail charges too much. maybe i'll get one from the direct distributing vintner my parents were friends with.
00:15:56 <Harzilein> (i don't like to feel taken advantage of. not objecting to paying for value/quality)
00:30:39 <grey_gandalf_> where do you live ? do you look for special Grappa?
00:30:58 <Harzilein> no
00:31:26 <Harzilein> i'm german, but neither part of some vodka belt nor part of some wine area :D
00:31:43 <grey_gandalf_> I can get cheap one from the supermarkt, but for a decent one you cn look. I'm not looking for ultra-aged stuff. That is not genuine, more a creation to rip off
00:31:59 <grey_gandalf_> Vodka is now el-cheapo everywhere, full of rip-offs
00:32:03 <Harzilein> but i know the rhineland palatinate vintner has decent one
00:32:08 <grey_gandalf_> trndy stuff is gin, total hype
00:32:35 <grey_gandalf_> then you get brandy from Rheinland... Asbach Uralt and such
00:32:37 <Harzilein> yeah, gin probably even has some competition in urban areas
00:33:25 <Harzilein> my birth hometown has a fraktur type kornbrand named after it :3
00:33:38 <Harzilein> a kornbrand with a fraktur type logo*
00:33:42 <grey_gandalf_> yeah.. gin is for millennials or gen z, gin is everywhere.. supermarket have lots of choice!!!
00:33:59 <grey_gandalf_> at the cost of grappa, cognac, whisky..
00:34:08 <grey_gandalf_> anyway... happy for today with SM!!!
00:34:11 <Harzilein> :)
00:34:17 <Harzilein> nn
00:34:26 <grey_gandalf_> quitick and shutting down my trusty ThinkCentre :)
00:51:29 <nsITobin> Harzilein: how are you this fine evening?
03:03:56 <tomman> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/blog/javascript-temporal-is-coming/ IT'S COMING™
03:04:10 <tomman> well, apparently JS is getting its own equivalent of Java's Joda Time... or something
03:04:37 <nsITobin> the hell does this even mean
03:04:53 <tomman> Joda Time (now adopted as the new date/time API as of Java 8) is a very nice API for dealing with date/time values
03:05:12 <tomman> ...problem is that usually this is the kind of stuff you want to deal with it serverside
03:05:12 <nsITobin> uhh i knew how to deal with timezones in javascript in 1997
03:05:17 <nsITobin> well 98
03:05:44 <tomman> Well, I was thinking more about "take a date value and set it to the next Monday"
03:06:05 <tomman> or "take a timestamp and forward it to noon, one week later"
03:06:41 <tomman> that's what Joda Time solved in Java, but again, I don't see that much for it on JS since this is the kind of stuff you want to process serverside
03:06:56 <tomman> But since JS is now also used as a "everywhere" platform, well.. here we are
03:08:05 <tomman> yet another API that will be tenderly implemented by every framework dev ever, and that will be the source of countless breaks on our "minor league" browsers by next month :&
03:08:07 <tomman> :/
13:46:35 <nsITobin> https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1eg5j7e/comment/lftfswy/
13:47:36 <nsITobin> Does SeaMonkey Association have an agreement with Google to be able to ship widevine cdm components even by GMP download?
13:49:07 <nsITobin> cause this is first and foremost the biggest ever issue facing any non-mainstream browser.. no matter if the living standards are updated or not.. The consumerist is always lost to a browser if they can't mindnumbingly consume endless amounts of streaming ads and maybe some content they like..
13:50:32 <nsITobin> this is why consumerists need tempted to start consuming development resources and contributing.. now Mozilla pulled this trick once and I somehow did it as well.. How do we do it for the third and final time..
13:52:38 <nsITobin> it is the main thing on my mind beyond composers and navigators and mailnews..es what would be the chief hook for someone not otherwise already enthralled with SeaMonkey
13:54:14 <nsITobin> and once we find it how can we make it appealing to joe thunderfox user and later his friends..
14:21:21 <nsITobin> frg do we have bug 1609176?
14:24:15 <nsITobin> it is a profile bc busting patch that UXP has now taken in while profiles across applications especially generations are not supported by.. well anyone.. people still do it and won't be told otherwise and since Mozilla already has this I think it's a good idea to keep the profile variences down betwen applications.
14:30:14 <nsITobin> of course they went another step further and removed something mozilla retained along with it completely busting cookies.sqlite from being compatible outside UXP to any other mozilla application.. so nevermind. Let them seal them selves away in the prison *I* built.
14:30:41 <nsITobin> patchqueue will get the bug number i mentioned..
14:43:44 <frg_Away> nsITobin we don't ship the drm stuff. No aggreement.
14:44:43 <frg_Away> nsITobin I only use session cookies but if the bug number is not in the queue we don't have it.
14:46:25 <nsITobin> it isn't important because seamonkey should not break theoretical compatibility with Mozilla while UXP just doesn't care about that.. that bit was my department.. not happy with them backporting mozilla bugs then adding unrelated changes.. I HATE THAT.. it should be seperate things if done at all
14:53:14 <Harzilein> if turnstile doesn't use drm, i could/couldn't care less ;)
14:54:13 <Harzilein> (of course i took note of the "not otherwise enthralled" restriction)
15:34:37 * nsITobin geos back to php
15:34:43 <nsITobin> goes*
17:41:45 <nsITobin> heading to the store.. anyone want anything lol