06:58:56 I got an invoice from Vertiloom: 06:59:04 "Dear Sir / Madam [[last name]] 06:59:06 Thank you for your order by Vertiloom, invoice number is . You will receive a confirmation after we receive your payment. " 06:59:16 ...how am I supposed to pay 06:59:51 this is the new normal, even ordering stuff online is impossible because nothing works 07:00:09 this is a funny case because that online store itself doesn't seem to like Firefox, it works better on SeaMonkey 07:00:27 but then I cannot pay with PayPal because it does not work with SeaMonkey anymore 07:01:42 so that leaves a bank transfer as the only possible payment option, but even it doesn't work because the backend of that online store seems to be broken and it loses the values of those fields on the invoice 07:02:54 I remember when online payments used no JavaScript at all, instead the browser went through a long series of html meta-refreshes but it at least fucking worked 07:03:09 now nothing works anymore and I cannot get my tomato seeds 07:07:28 ...and no-one is surprised of any of this 07:07:43 this is the new normal 08:02:31 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40562988 14:16:07 Sompi: Paypal is irrelevant in my country (thankfully), but some banks are starting to rely on chromeisms 14:16:39 which is kinda ironic when you see a bank that requires latest Chromefox, but when you walk into their branches, every single computer is still running Windows XP or 7 :D 14:17:11 now, to pay here these days you're pretty much forced to own a smartdevice running Android 14:17:39 (iPhone is irrelevant in most of Latin America, and only a couple banks in Venezuela do payments over SMS, despite being mandated by law)