15:28:25 can't load, https://everything.updatestar.com/ - secure connection failed 15:28:26 - Win7, SM, FF 115 ESR, PM 36.0 15:28:28 i'm told it does work in Win11, FF 137 & MS Edge 15:28:29 might it be a Win7 issue ? 16:28:42 therube loads here 16:28:56 OS ? 16:29:10 Server 2008 R2 but can try 7. 16:29:43 eh, guess i'll try SM on a Win10... 16:31:33 https://ibb.co/3yjVqH89 16:31:43 7 Ultimate 16:33:39 Needed to put in this fixit last month or defender wouldn't pick updates any longer but doubt it will affect SeaMonkey TLS Connections: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392 16:41:50 Oh was pro not Ultimate :) 16:48:58 i do not have that KB, nor do i use any anitvirus. 16:49:55 Just for network connections initiated by Windows stuff 17:06:49 therube, works on pm 33.6.1 on win10 21:50:48 wow, WineHQ switched antibot protection from Clownflare (which hates niche web browsers) to.. Anubis!? 21:50:51 well, at least Anubis is browser friendly... I still do not like being forced to burn coal to prove I'm not a criminal, but eh... 21:51:19 it seems every FOSS project is embracing Anubis over Clownflare, and I have mixed feelings over this