03:10:58 <tomman> https://fabulous.systems/posts/2025/05/anubis-saved-our-websites-from-a-ddos-attack/ gotta love how that wolfgirl is eating the Clownflare's pie
03:11:32 <tomman> (the only issue on SeaMonkey so far is the missing progress bar, haven't checked why... other than that, wolfgirls don't really discriminate)
09:01:24 <guest_> publishing SM 2.53.21B1 for Windows without code signing is a bad idea as Microsoft Defender blocks unsigned executable in our company
09:02:59 <frg_Away> the alternative to not code signing would currently be not publiushing it at all. It takes time to build new signing infra
15:22:22 <tomman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43867912 oooh, the Anubis dev is aware of us, "small browsers"
15:22:32 <tomman> see, wolfgirls can't be evil by nature :P
15:23:04 <tomman> ...hope she never becomes a sellout, although you CAN buy a license if you want to be able to ditch the wolfgirl for something more "profeshunal"
15:23:54 <tomman> also love how people complain that "I don't allow JS nor cookies, the Internet is broken, you suck!" and yet propose no solutions for the bot/scraper threat that is actually destroying websites
15:33:28 <Harzilein> i personally _like_ to occasionally have a look at everything with just yesscript and no other website content changing extensions. but i like when i can use bookmarklets :)
15:34:10 <Harzilein> also fwiw librejs works nicely as that kind of extension too.
15:35:40 <Harzilein> hn especially often makes it "muh ad blocker", but it's really just... it used to be fine turning off js until you needed it. and it looks like with anubis, sites may well choose to have me have js once for getting the cookie and then surf on with whatever can present it, same browser session with js off, wget, dillo ;)
15:38:13 <tomman> "Please unblock us at your adblocker, pretty please!"
15:38:15 <tomman> sorry, can't
15:38:18 <tomman> I don't even run an adblocker
15:38:53 <tomman> what blocks ad hosts is my DNS server, therefore client-side exceptions are not viable, sorry :P
16:15:27 <nikolam> tomman, me to am not running any ad blocker, ever. I just use Noscript on Firefox for many years to block javascript not related to functionality and stop spying from google scripts statistics etc..
16:16:08 <tomman> A DNS blocklist not only boosts your adblocker, it also works on devices where you can't install adblockers easily, like anything Android
16:16:26 <tomman> it also saves bandwidth
16:16:54 <tomman> I avoid client-side tools (adblockers/script blockers) whenever possible, I prefer to not let the suckers even get the chance to enter my network
16:18:56 <Tekk> tomman: I don't think you understand how adblockers work.
16:19:09 <Tekk> They allow even less traffic than a dns based solution
16:19:11 <tomman> don't "well ackshually" me
16:19:14 <Tekk> The dns query is never even made
16:19:24 <tomman> I know how it works, and I run my own DNS server at home
16:19:40 <tomman> and for me my approach works well since I have to deal with devices other than web browsers on PCs
16:20:04 <tomman> if I need extra protection, then yes, I'll install an adblocker
16:20:18 <tomman> (and currently I do that on Firefox/Fennec mobile, since my phones have to roam on networks other than mine)
22:35:33 <tomman> yay, imgur now wants dynamic imports
22:35:39 <tomman> otherwise, you get a GSoD
22:37:02 <tomman> this also renders Imgur links unusable, since "https://i.imgur.com/blah.jpg" will be redirected to "https://imgur.com/blah"
22:38:01 <tomman> workaround: use something like this to load the actual image: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://imgur-direct-links.vercel.app/&ved=2ahUKEwiDrJzl7IWNAxVvmIQIHS_QAEkQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0BLsoPs-wtyvqYNbx5qihh
22:38:08 <tomman> -- https://imgur-direct-links.vercel.app/
22:38:41 <nsITobin> https://thereisonlyxul.org/ has been revised to remove backstory no1curr about and add SeaMonkey CCI as a main menu option.. also moved the sidebar to the right because reasons
23:22:00 <nsITobin> now I shall lfs or play vidja james.. dunno which yet
23:22:34 <nsITobin> tomman: javascript is needed to view a picture don't you know
23:23:00 <nsITobin> you deff can't do a server side solution to prevent hotlinkingh
23:23:02 <nsITobin> no way
23:23:39 <tomman> in the meanwhile, Clownflare's craptcha behavior have changed today here
23:24:15 <tomman> you still get punished with "machine-specific length of time" hang, but eventually you DO get a clickable and passable challenge
23:32:39 <nsITobin> tomman: btw if steam is your shell and steam launches explorer it will start the shell.. HOWEVER in big picture mode its a bit fucky..
23:33:08 <nsITobin> and of course the taskbar margin gets set so stop playing explorer.exe isn't that useful either
23:33:53 <nsITobin> but my Redmond Edition SteamOS is coming along until chrome fucks windows 10 over
23:34:02 <nsITobin> then i guess I will not play games on steam
23:34:32 <nsITobin> proton doesn't run everything i would want to play even if i force it to try..
23:56:32 <tomman> eh, Proton works fine for the stuff I've tried so far... except for THIS ONE BASTARD JAPANESE GAME
23:56:40 <tomman> but then Japanese games barely run on Windows PCs...