00:09:27 <nsITobin> I HAVE SOLVED THE BINOC CONTENT PROBLEM!!!
00:10:36 <nsITobin> binaryoutcast.com will simply feature zero content.. since I seem to have ZERO issue creating content on anything else so my soltuion is not to have content on binaryoutcast.com anymore.. just LINK to other sites I own that do have some sort of content..
00:34:23 <UsL> noo
00:41:22 <nsITobin> UsL: ?
00:42:31 <nsITobin> I mean it has a page.. some branding.. good color scheme.. links.. a theme song what more does www.binaryoutcast.com need specifically LOL
01:00:43 <nsITobin> i mean.. 24 fuckin years I been looking for a solution
01:01:09 <nsITobin> BinOC is older than SeaMonkey but only did stuff for a few years in the 2010s lol
01:10:51 <UsL> that's what I remember  : )
01:19:37 <nsITobin> remembering the 2010s is best something only attempted when absolutely required.
01:22:02 <nsITobin> new personal policy
01:22:17 <nsITobin> i suggest wide adoption tho
12:39:50 <frg_Away> hi nsITobin
12:40:06 <nsITobin> morning
12:40:15 <nsITobin> revisions revisions
12:43:19 <nsITobin> 18 dollars to renew a .com.. fuckin price hikes.. well just because binaryoutcast.com has been perfected once I decided to not have content.. i have other domains lol
12:44:38 <frg_Away> Pretty sure SeaMonkey e.V. can cover costs if needed. Ask IanN.
12:45:06 <nsITobin> last resort.. you know.. when my life is cut into pieces .. not there yet ;)
12:45:27 <nsITobin> yes that was a song reference
12:46:24 <nsITobin> the real hard spot re domain renewals is in nov/dec when binaryoutcast mattatobin and binocnetwork come up so that's 18x3 around holidays
12:46:38 <nsITobin> wish i staggered them out better through the year
12:54:45 <nsITobin> frg_Away: If I suck it up and just finish transfering everything off google apps domain including paying for namecheap email.. that namecheap email would be covered in 3 months of money going to google and the rest of the year going to google now would also cover the primary domains.. basically I MUST for FINACIAL REASONS.. drop google and the bs i have endured with it since 2011..
12:55:08 <nsITobin> someone play a dramatic music cue and fade to commerical :P
12:56:38 <nsITobin> the main blocker there is my google voice number which is currently the one government agencies have and government agencies are kinda screwed at the moment..
12:57:42 <nsITobin> wait no it is like 8 dollars and going up.. eliminating google completely covers email and like 3 domains..
12:57:58 <nsITobin> 8 a month
13:00:48 <nsITobin> if i wasn't so crap at math I'd make a good accountant..
13:02:42 <frg_Away> Elon should run a free doge service for private entitries. You would save millions in no time. Or was it billions? :)
13:07:04 <nsITobin> elon needs deported to el salvador..
13:07:46 <nsITobin> then again given how badly elon is crashing he may take trump's new migrant buyout and just return to south america on our dime
13:07:55 <nsITobin> and I am ok with that
13:08:13 <nsITobin> as long as armed officers are waiting for him at his final destination.
13:10:38 <nsITobin> at least it is far less likely Elon will be assimilating people with his brain chips.. that's a huge relief..
13:13:13 <nsITobin> tho wouldn't be surprised after RFK has assembled his autism lists it will be discovered that neurolink chips cure autism or gender dysphoria or some other crap.. keep an eye out for that if it is allowed to get that far..
13:14:44 <nsITobin> my name is gonna start coming up a lot as they keep going after these welfare programs and shit.. and I am not hard to find any info on..
13:15:54 <nsITobin> granted among millions but I am beyond being able to blend in when you feed data into a computer
13:19:09 <nsITobin> and to boot or perhaps aboot.. i have a canadian step-mom so if i did come to light in the eyes of these government magas .. I am a traitor with ties to hostile enemy aliens .. Man I LOVE being an american
13:20:22 <nsITobin> also defective
13:21:49 <frg_Away> It is amazing how you can ruin you reputation and let you company slide in such a short time.
13:24:48 <nsITobin> Yeah but there is a shortcut.. support trump or simply support trump-like shit
13:25:44 <nsITobin> tech world has to move fast can't be bogged down with systamtically ruining yourself.. you need to get it done before the share holders realize anything is wrong or can do anything about it
13:29:39 <nsITobin> I have never liked Elon I have always sensed he was a threat .. same with zuckerburg
13:31:39 <nsITobin> We should have just all trusted MySpace Tom to handle it.. who doesn't like MySpace Tom.. everyone was friends with him!
13:37:28 <nsITobin> frg_Away: a real issue for me is trying to find news on what is happening with social security administration cause NOW the entire internet is filled with what seems like AI generated stories of dramatic shifts in social security and all they sight is normal operations as IF they are sensational.. like payment schedules shifting cause weekends or holidays..
13:38:09 <nsITobin> including elon's picture on many of them as the featured image
13:38:32 <nsITobin> question is .. is it content farms as normal or a flood of disinformation
13:39:00 <nsITobin> geared to make people being upset about radical changes as just being upset cause of sensationalized non-stories
13:40:51 <nsITobin> that and these damned new ddos protection systems.. they are slow on older browsers.. disruptive on newer browsers
14:04:08 <frg_Away> well with all the idiots around ddos seems to be the new normal.
15:47:31 <tomman> at least Anubis is friendly with us... but then never trust a wolfgirl :P
15:47:57 <tomman> I've seen another couple of browser check crap these days, whose provider I've been unable to identify
15:48:06 <tomman> but seem to emulate the Clownflare model, sans the craptcha
16:04:50 <tomman> ha, just hit a Nitter instance with Anubis
16:04:53 <tomman> (privacydev)
16:05:21 <tomman> Xcancell does its own browser checking, with instructions to complain if your browser does not pass the check
18:11:51 <tomman> https://www.jwz.org/blog/2025/05/user-agent-blocking/ and of course JWZ is Doing It Wrong™, as usual :/
18:11:57 <tomman> > I'm currently blocking Chrome < 2023, Firefox < 2017, Windows < 2013, macOS < 2013.
18:12:14 <tomman> that's a bad idea, or at least an easy way to piss off people using legac hardware
18:12:20 <tomman> > please understand that your opinion has already been noted and will be given all due consideration.
18:12:29 <tomman> *plonk~*
18:13:20 <nsITobin> tomman: he'd save him self a lot of time if he just came here LOL
18:13:29 <nsITobin> we can let him know what he has missed
18:13:43 <tomman> how do we get pissy bar owners to spend more than 1 minute on IRC?
18:14:20 <nsITobin> i dunno my typical stratagy is just to inform someone they have been drafted.. but i dunno if he will go for that
18:14:21 <tomman> wow, his opinions on Anubis are... expected from someone that hates anime
18:14:22 <tomman> > And that's even before we get to: "Now all of your legitimate visitors will see an absolutely cringe anime elf or whatever the fuck that thing is before they see your site".
18:14:47 <nsITobin> well there is a time for animorphs and there is a time for serious business
18:14:51 <nsITobin> tomman:
18:15:13 <tomman> Allow me to disagree, but eh... JWZs opinion is so predictable
18:15:54 <tomman> ...on the flip side, a broken clock is right twice a day:
18:15:56 <tomman> > Cloudflare are Nazis, so anyone using or recommending their products can get fucked.
18:16:16 <nsITobin> Cloudflare are not nazis
18:16:50 <tomman> don't even try to argue that with him, unless you want to unleash World War III
18:16:54 <nsITobin> they may have some nazis on staff but they also have radical leftists too they are essentually an ISP without the physical network
18:16:58 <tomman> ...or just get promptly banned from his premises
18:17:07 <nsITobin> and being an ISP is worse
18:17:41 <nsITobin> the telecommunications and media industry is enemy.. always has been Think AT&T
18:18:27 <tomman> "Can you hear me now?" - every single worldwide telco, circa 2025
18:18:35 <nsITobin> that was Verizon
18:18:43 <nsITobin> you know.. owners of Netscape
18:19:22 <tomman> ...which is now Chromescape
18:19:56 <nsITobin> last i checked SeaMonkey nor Borealis.. which could exist any moment it is just unlikely.. is based on chrome
18:21:01 <nsITobin> look all we REALLY need is for jwz to give seamonkey his blessing and he can get back to his tolet extravaganza
18:30:34 <tomman> https://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2025/05/06.html?utm_source=sp_ma you can give him the number of another plumber instead
18:30:39 <tomman> his fancy new toilets have already failed
18:31:44 <tomman> ...wow, less than 1 month
18:31:52 <tomman> are plumbers in California _that_ incompetent?!
18:32:36 <tomman> not even the random uncertified dudes in my country that know how to use a pipe wrench more or less (which are like 99% of the plumbers here) are THAT bad
19:20:00 <frg_Away> personally we don't need blessings or user but devs. Either enhance the 2.53 ot move it to central without too much loss of functionality and personality. I suspect the later is impossible even with enough devs but you never know.
19:20:10 <frg_Away> ^or users
19:21:02 <tomman> "just add AI™"
19:21:21 <tomman> and at that point we can rename the whole product Crash Canyon
19:36:52 <nsITobin> tomman: yeah we could have AI in the sidebar but we need the webapis first
19:37:07 <nsITobin> unless you know an AI that already works in seamonkey and won't send a single process browser down in flames
19:38:19 <nsITobin> which i can't understand why it is so fucking impossible to have just a simple thin AI web client cause it ain't like it is using MAH cpuz to respond.. it has no reason to be slow and bloated or require extensive webfeatures to do simple text and image transfer over a simulated chat
19:42:58 <nsITobin> frg_Away: the major transformation in central is nearly done save some lingering xul controls.. the toolkit is gutted there is no baseline style anymore for anything not identifying as an xhtml xul document.. it is closer to building a shitty modern website now than anything you guys are used to
19:43:55 <frg_Away> nsITobin yes and compiling is a bloody bloated rust mess needing 32GB of ram.
19:44:32 <nsITobin> have they passed last good rustc that isn't ram hungry?
19:44:44 <nsITobin> good as in reletive terms
19:44:46 <nsITobin> of course
19:47:35 <nsITobin> 1.83 was last I tried that didn't have ram issues
19:48:19 <frg_Away> I only tested two weeks ago with latest. In the mid term version requirements will be bumped.  If rust issue might be fixed by then or not.
20:24:26 <nsITobin> ah
20:24:44 <nsITobin> sorry i was out absorbing vitamin D from a nuclear fireball in space
20:24:48 <nsITobin> i am back now
20:24:59 <nsITobin> well it is in space I was merely outside
22:59:03 <frg_Away> gitlab wip updated