libera #seamonkey

13 May 2025

Surfing the net has never been so suite || Release: 2.53.20 | Beta: 2.53.21b1 seamonkey-project.org/releases || This channel is logged at logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey || SeaMonkey Nightly 2.53 b1pre archive archive.seamonkey-project.org/nightly || c-c (OPEN ) , c-253 (APPROVAL ONLY) || R.I.P. WG9s

• 12:15
  frg_Away
  gitlab wip updated
• 12:17
  Maniel
  Hey, Guts, W.R.T. the 'Topic for #SeaMonkey' header .... Is it possible to include some spacing between "Release: 2.53.20" and "Beta: 2.53.21b1"
• 12:17
  Maniel
  Because I was reading it as "Release: 2.53.20 Beta" and then trying to work out what the "2.53.21b!" notice was about.
• 12:17
  Maniel
  Maybe half a dozen spaces or something. ...."Release: 2.53.20" "Beta: 2.53.21b1"
• 12:18
  frg_Away
  better?
• 12:20
  Maniel
  Not noticing any difference, FRG. Maybe if I log off and then log back on.
• 12:24
  Maniel
  Ah!! The little vertical linesWould it be possible to have the "Release: 2.53.20" then the link to the releases site "seamonkey-project.org/releases" then the "Beta: 2.53.21b1" and a link to its D/L site??
• 12:25
  frg_Away
  I removed one line becuae one link for both. If I add another link the header would take too much space imho. IanN an decide later
• 12:26
  Maniel
  Then, logically, the "SeaMonkey Nightly 2.53 b1pre archive" followed by its D/L site "archive.seamonkey-project.org/nightly "
• 12:30
  Maniel
  frg: In the Header, what does the "c-c (OPEN ) , c-253 (APPROVAL ONLY)" mean??
• 12:33
  Maniel
  frg: Alternatively, can the "Release 2.53.20' etc be clickable links like I might see on a web page??
• 12:33
  frg_Away
  c-c is comm central and 253 is the 253 repo. Only info for patch submission via bugzilla. 2453 needs approval.
• 12:33
  Maniel
  Sorry to be a Pest!! ;-(
• 12:36
  frg_Away
  I really let IanN decide later. Personally I woudl cut it and just pot the versions and a link to the homepage to it.
• 15:03
  tomman
  OK, here is a very atypical case: tealca.com/calculo-de-tarifas
• 15:03
  tomman
  there is some CSS fail with a menu on top, and the form gives all sorts of weird JS errors (mostly undefined stuff), but it TRIES to work
• 15:04
  tomman
  ...but on FF128ESR, while the site renders fine, the form refuses to work AT ALL, giving another bunch of undefined JS errors!
• 15:04
  tomman
  guess I won't be shipping anything with those folks, because it smells they only tested their fancy new calculator on Chromovision only...
• 15:05
  tomman
  in any case this is a first: a site that breaks even more on recent FF than on SM
• 15:42
  tomman
  news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43969827 well, MICROS~1 now hosts the main Mozilla repos
• 22:25
  njsg
  remind me, how do I enable the "time travel" component of SeaMonkey...
• 22:26
  njsg
  these 23h56m per day are insufficient
• 22:28
  nsITobin
  i just challenged jwz on his endless apple bitching
• 22:28
  nsITobin
  njsg: we will see if our idol is worth his salt anymore
• 22:33
  njsg
  eh, his reports of how broken some Apple things are at least keep me up to date on that
• 22:33
  njsg
  but, honestly, it isn't like I expect anything well designed to come from the house of "buttons are bad mmkay"
• 22:33
  njsg
  (Along with "consistency is bad")
• 22:34
  njsg
  I wonder how much of bad design in "smartphones" can be traced back to Steve Jobs.
• 22:48
  njsg
  nsITobin: waitaminute check the newest apple one...
• 22:48
  njsg
  If I weren't so exhausted, I'd be laughing.
• 22:49
  njsg
  although, to be serious, that could be a huge problem, if they didn't take into account the "humans are over this" aspect of stairs and steps and didn't include safety in the design...
• 22:49
  » njsg wonders what would an Apple Schaku look like
• 22:50
  njsg
  "The units separate automagically whenever we play music", perhaps (I think this has actually happened in Australia, some grounding problem)
• 23:03
  nsITobin
  Down with the Elites and their consumers!
• 23:03
  nsITobin
  i mean
• 23:03
  nsITobin
  hi
• 23:34
  Sompi
  forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=84698
• 23:35
  nsITobin
  Sompi: you can't have 32bit modern linux and $majorDistros won't let you have older style linux
• 23:36
  nsITobin
  if someone wants to rebuild my soon to exist rpm-based distro for 32bit they will be able to
• 23:36
  nsITobin
  i got rpm and rpmbuild working
• 23:38
  nsITobin
  if successful.. no WHEN successful it will be the first non-rh decended distro since Suse to be rpm-based.. Every distro that uses RPM other than suse is decended from Redhat.. including the mandrakes
• 23:38
  Sompi
  This is not just about 32-bit vs. 64-bit x86 systems, this is about technological diversity
• 23:39
  nsITobin
  what technological diversity
• 23:39
  Sompi
  There are also other computing platforms than IBM PC compatibles
• 23:39
  nsITobin
  what arm?
• 23:40
  nsITobin
  all the commerically failed architecures and riscv of course
• 23:45
  Sompi
  Everything that exists out there. And also the pointer size, which is significant when the system is low on memory.
• 23:46
  Sompi
  8 gigabytes of memory on the x86 platform is just not enough to justify installing a 64-bit Linux distribution, not at least without 32-bit compatibility libraries