10:12:36 <Sompi> https://justfuckingusehtml.com/
10:21:44 <Sompi> SeaMonkey doesn't support HTML popovers and dialogs?
15:20:09 <Harzilein> hmm
15:20:23 <Harzilein> i forgot who i was recently discussing the piratesirc game with
15:23:15 <therube_> https://imgur.com/ now looks to be broken.  working for anyone here?
17:04:24 <Sompi> it randomly works and randomly doesn't
17:04:30 <Sompi> sometimes they serve chromeisms and sometimes don't
18:39:48 <nsITobin> *clicks download rhel*
18:39:53 <nsITobin> *gets 404*
18:40:03 <nsITobin> knows if this was wide spread there would be an outcry
18:40:10 <nsITobin> ... have i been specifically targeted?
20:01:09 <therube> most simply give an OOPS, https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download
23:40:10 <nsITobin> https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127&p=262471#p262429
23:41:04 <nsITobin> I have half a mind to jump into the program and derail it
23:41:15 <nsITobin> but I have other things to do instead
23:42:06 <tomman> > You must have been invited to join by CloudFlare after filling out the form linked to above. This is not an open "anyone can join" thing.
23:42:15 <tomman> in other words, you must be hip enough to be in the club
23:42:21 <tomman> typical Clownflare, couldn't expect less
23:42:52 <nsITobin> i should have just stayed here and sttayed on neil on and on and on and splash screen this and componitiziation that and we need an independant infrastructure..
23:42:58 <tomman> > If you don't represent Pale Moon but a different browser (i.e. a fork, spin-off, or similar browser that isn't explicit supported by CloudFlare on their "challenges" information page), you will have to sign a simple, narrow, context-specific NDA to be able to join the program.
23:43:07 <nsITobin> i really did fuck up by giving them this much power
23:43:08 <tomman> let's go again with the NDAs because MUH LAWYERS
23:43:20 <tomman> > I've looked over this agreement and it looks fine for what it is intended for and isn't an overly-broad NDA as requested to be signed initially. I suggest reaching out to CloudFlare if this is the case. The more independent browsers get involved in this, the better.
23:43:26 <tomman> a NDA is still a gag order, yo.
23:43:46 <nsITobin> only reason moonchild would sign an NDA is because he is backed into a corner and knows he can't win if he fights..
23:43:54 <nsITobin> because he is a weak leader
23:44:13 <tomman> I do not care about that
23:44:37 <tomman> I care about Clownflare basically being a gatekeeper with nobody deifying it... but yeah, this gets political at this stage
23:44:52 <nsITobin> technically if Moonchild fucks this up it is my fault cause I put him into this position..
23:45:03 <tomman> I'm surprised the current 'merican administration haven't threatened them yet, but I guess gatekeeping the Internet is not subject to tariffs or DOGE
23:45:25 <nsITobin> why would trump threaten them?
23:45:43 <tomman> he has threatened everybody, even allies and campaign donors
23:46:36 <nsITobin> besides remember Pale Moon is a participant in that antigoogle case
23:46:40 <tomman> At this point I wish for the total downfall of Clownflare in the most painful way for them, alas, that's not really happening
23:46:46 <nsITobin> if it is even still active
23:46:49 <tomman> and people STILL love their services, so...
23:47:31 <tomman> in other pathetic news, lately I've been getting more and more Anubis, this time from the few remaining Nitter instances
23:47:37 <tomman> ...and even on my cellphone, of all things
23:47:48 <tomman> this bot war has gone too far
23:47:57 <nsITobin> btw yeah jwz used mastodon tools to prevent me from following him over one mild reaction
23:48:06 <tomman> ah, that's JWZ for you
23:48:10 <nsITobin> that is not the man of any hour past y2k
23:48:13 <tomman> *plonk* = total ban
23:48:43 <nsITobin> i want you to mentally replace *plonk* with EX-TER-MIN-ATE and tell me if it is still okay?
23:49:25 <tomman> plonk harder
23:50:00 <nsITobin> translation.. MAX-I-MUM EX-TER-MIN-AT-ION
23:50:17 <nsITobin> all i did was put jwz in a dalek casing and called it a paradign
23:50:21 <nsITobin> paradigm*
23:50:29 <nsITobin> and boy did it go wrong
23:50:39 <nsITobin> and i am not too thrilled with the source materal these days
23:52:30 <nsITobin> it is fine tho tomman btw any other channels on this network left that will engage you and not start ignoring you after a few lines until the silence or ban you.. cause I need to be in more places
23:53:09 <tomman> here is how you can save JWZ
23:53:12 <tomman> become a plumber
23:53:18 <tomman> a good one, but furthermore, a HONEST one
23:53:25 <tomman> I've heard honest plumbers do not exist in SF
23:54:09 <nsITobin> when we go to his nightclub we will use that to get in the door
23:54:21 <nsITobin> i'll bring my gross pipe wrench
23:54:28 <UsL> I remember jwz from back in early 2000 something. It was him, kairo, Dan, Phil and a bunch I can't remember anymore. Before even there was Firefox. The the shift happened and the suite had to rename to SeaMonkey and became community-driven.
23:54:51 <UsL> I'm old..
23:54:55 <UsL> Gnight.
23:55:06 <nsITobin> well according to kairo i steal and destroy code.. his borg implants should be itching like crazy after all these years
23:55:15 <UsL> haha : )
23:55:31 <UsL> yeah, he was pretty tough in the chat sometimes.
23:55:53 <UsL> didn't like if someone had a different opinion related to development
23:55:56 <nsITobin> pre-2011 was peak kairo he was insightful interesting open to many solutions.. then he got a job at mozilla
23:56:08 <nsITobin> him and ratty were my heros
23:56:21 <UsL> you mean Ratty_away
23:56:25 <UsL> : )
23:56:33 <nsITobin> ratty vanished off the face of the earth and kairo thinks i steal and destroy code and my idol hates me
23:56:43 <nsITobin> man all this life eXPerence
23:56:48 <nsITobin> in such a short time
23:57:01 <nsITobin> and tto think the peak of my day last decade was screaming at people on a forum
23:57:05 <UsL> well, twetny years is a lifetime in internets
23:57:28 <UsL> twentyfive even
23:58:20 <nsITobin> maybe find where rob mccool ended up.. if he isn't a piece of crap maybe start worshiping him
23:59:37 <nsITobin> he worked at google for 12 years
23:59:47 <nsITobin> so rob mccool is ruined