02:36:55 <tomman> https://www30.mercantilbanco.com/melp/login oh yeah, one of my banks broke under SeaMonkey, finally
02:37:01 <tomman> time to close that account for good, it seems
02:37:14 <tomman> also, notice that they're using Clownflare for hosting/transit!
02:37:46 <tomman> closing this account will be OH SO CONVENIENT, especially after having burned $5 to update my debit card so some almost useless MasterCard Debit
02:38:06 <tomman> ...this bank still runs W7 at their branches, and their ATMs run XP... if you can still find one in service
02:38:16 <tomman> but their home banking? Oh no no no
03:33:12 <franstam> sounds like a double standard aka hyporcite?
03:33:18 <franstam> hypocrite
13:47:51 <nsITobin> I need a better way to update these let's encrypt certs and propagate them between servers
13:48:24 <nsITobin> i literally got it replaced MINUTES before it expired unless i missed one
13:48:47 <tomman> you're doing better than a couple of banks I know :D
13:50:25 <nsITobin> tomman: I also know how to design a god damned website .. filling it with content .. THAT is what I SUCK AT.. and despite my best wishes.. INFRASTRUCTURE in and of its self is not actually content
13:54:56 <tomman> infra is unsexy indeed
13:56:49 <frg_Away> hi all
13:57:44 <nsITobin> greetings frg_Away
14:03:34 <nsITobin> is the seamonkey wordpress template available somewhere?
14:07:38 <nsITobin> since a number of mid-range trees simply aren't useful to even really me.. but the gecko 1.x ones are as well as 52 and newer I am gonna eliminate the mid-range versions
14:12:51 <nsITobin> so .. gonna do 1.7 1.8 (seamonkey) 1.9.2, Mozilla ESR 52, seamonkey 2.53, seamonkey wip (from patch queue), and mozilla-central with comm
14:13:56 <frg_Away> nsITobin was all before my time. I also usually leave infra to IanN and ewong
14:15:27 <nsITobin> well in my research especially in custom or classically mozilla.. my answers are often found in gecko 1.7-1.9.2 rather than say esr24 .. its either modern (to us) modern the modern or ancient.. in NEARLY all cases
14:21:40 <njsg> I need to see how are the different repos again, perhaps next time I have to track down a change in or the introduction of a behaviour/feature
14:22:03 <nsITobin> njsg: which ones?
14:22:32 <njsg> I think I've usually used the historical cvs-on-git and comm-central
14:23:11 <nsITobin> 2.0 9ish 17 24 31 and 45 are significant versions from a whole-codebase perspective they all occured around upheavals in tech or buildsystem..
14:23:49 <nsITobin> pre-quantum that is
14:24:26 <nsITobin> but after basically having em indexed for a decade its diminishing returns vs effort and space
14:25:12 <nsITobin> it's*
14:25:55 <nsITobin> hell I'll open 1.7 just to LOOK at it and draw inspiration..
15:11:15 <nsITobin> welp.. brb writing a web panel
16:06:31 <nsITobin> i hate wikitext
16:06:37 <nsITobin> i hate it hate it hate it
16:07:52 <nsITobin> everything that supports it is either integrated, under a license I can't use, or has a dependancy tree like it was written in python not php
16:14:34 <nsITobin> first I need to learn line by line processing.. then I will write my own subset wikitext parser that can parse enough to be useful for sucking info off the mozilla wiki
16:19:41 <Harzilein> wasn't there more than one wiki engine in use at mozilla?
16:52:58 <nsITobin> Harzilein: mdn used to be wikilike
16:53:23 <nsITobin> then it eventually became yaml headers with html in a git repo
16:53:33 <nsITobin> i long copied that
17:03:26 <Harzilein> nsITobin: at some point they had some enterprise (java) wiki engine i think
18:02:34 <nsITobin> indeed
18:02:51 <nsITobin> sorry Harzilein buscuits and sausage gravy happened