10:04:49 <IanN_Away> morning nsITobin
10:12:10 <nsITobin> good morning IanN_Away
10:12:15 <nsITobin> how are you today?
10:23:59 <IanN_Away> nsITobin: not too bad, got builders in
11:28:42 <nsITobin> welp.. https://ibb.co/6Rq94wwY
11:28:44 <nsITobin> LOL
11:29:10 <nsITobin> it's really one of those jd awards but still .. these are the two lines that stood out first
11:29:16 <nsITobin> and I thought to my self..
11:29:21 <nsITobin> good to know
11:31:04 <nsITobin> ... ahem.. and while I have indeed successfully been logging out for far longer than 16 years.. does anyone know how to actually log off?
11:31:38 <nsITobin> or is it too late for that :P
11:41:29 <IanN_Away> lots of users don't seem to know the difference between reboot and log off/back in
11:43:26 <nsITobin> well i was used to restarting my computer with windows but on linux i reboot it
11:51:01 <IanN_Away> nsITobin: probably depends on your distro, it's restart in the menu for Fedora
12:03:15 <nsITobin> well i know you use konversation so i guess you use the KDE.. how is plasma working out for you.. when I was in just 2 days ago on 42 it upset me before I could even get to system settings or kcontrol center or whatever its called this month .. the whole 42 release is ghastly but the real story is centos stream 10.. it is currently only installable from iso media as the latest rpms core baseos rpms have rpm package failures so netinstall or dnf
12:03:15 <nsITobin> chroot install is out for now.. went to #centos asked me about it.. and i was told to use something else and shuffled out the door .. when i didn't part everything else I said was ignored
12:03:34 <nsITobin> oddly though kde is included in stream 10 atm anyway
12:03:49 <nsITobin> i bet i know who's doing that is..
12:04:40 <nsITobin> asked em about it*
12:06:14 <nsITobin> How does centos produce a worse version of fedora 40 than 40 was in rawhide? How is that even humanly possible?
12:07:27 <nsITobin> suffice it to say there is no point in using centos stream and really even if the bugs are fixed it isn't really a system i want to run even in rhel/rocky/alma form..
12:08:39 <nsITobin> almalinux now deviates from rhel but not in the number one way that would matter.. building it like it used to be built no appstream
12:08:51 <nsITobin> rocky remains more or less pure rhel
12:09:11 <nsITobin> so i guess stream really is rhel beta in full now
12:10:06 <nsITobin> Just remember boys and girls.. if you use CentOS Stream you are giving your time away to a for profit development process
12:11:28 <nsITobin> and being a CentOS Stream user means you are an unpaid redhat tester
12:39:35 <IanN_Away> i tend to use Gnome
12:50:53 <nsITobin> pure openbox for me no taskbar no systemtray no dock
12:50:57 <nsITobin> just.. openbox
12:50:59 <nsITobin> bbl