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2 Aug 2024

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• 00:23
  nsITobin
  All these squares make a circle.
• 00:23
  nsITobin
  All these squares make a circle.
• 00:23
  nsITobin
  All these squares make a circle.
• 00:23
  nsITobin
  Hi
• 00:47
  Sompi_
  pi == 4
• 00:48
  nsITobin
  3.14185551212
• 00:48
  nsITobin
  is my personal pi constant
• 00:49
  nsITobin
  anything that long will have rounding errors anyway so who cares lol
• 00:50
  nsITobin
  the real issue the joke was created before I understood enough to know what I just said is total bs
• 00:50
  tomman
  Google will redefine Pi as 69 because the current value is known to offend someone
• 00:50
  nsITobin
  and that is not offensive?
• 00:51
  tomman
  don't worry, we'll revise it in 10 years
• 00:51
  tomman
  also doesn't count if it is offensive in the Eu
• 00:51
  tomman
  --EU
• 00:52
  tomman
  but then they might have to define a EU-only version of Pi
• 00:52
  nsITobin
  So tomman remember when I first said I was gonna experiment with using github pages?
• 00:52
  nsITobin
  I'd say the experiment failed
• 00:52
  nsITobin
  lol
• 01:05
  Sompi_
  but if the circle is made of squares, then pi is 4
• 01:07
  nsITobin
  true
• 01:07
  nsITobin
  i was just reading it wrong
• 06:33
  CerebraNet
  pi=3.8675309
• 08:49
  njsg
  Sompi_: IIRC you did mention Traficom's self-service before
• 09:03
  njsg
  tomman: no, any server will be easy to secure, just plug in a Logitech mouse with a built-in antivirus subscription
• 09:46
  njsg
  tomman: also, how are things there? is there a stronger international message around this time, or is this just business as usual?
• 15:15
  tomman
  njsg: there has been no shortage of Strong Words™, yes. Also, hope we have no regime spies here, or we can get 25 years of jail for saying Mean Things™ against the thugs
• 15:15
  tomman
  ha, Logitech
• 15:16
  tomman
  just installed MouseWare 8.2 on a ol' PC to enable the mouse wheel on Win95, since the mouse was also Logitech
• 15:16
  tomman
  spoilers: it didn't work
• 15:17
  nsITobin
  I deff need to write a bug tracker
• 15:17
  nsITobin
  cause I can't have openregistration on my gogs instance
• 16:50
  jonadab
  Regardless of manufacturer, I think a lot of scrollmice would potentially work with the MS IntelliMouse driver, which I _think_ is old enough to have been available for 95OSR2 before it went totally EOL.
• 16:51
  jonadab
  Although, if you're using W95 for some reason, I can't imagine the lack of scroll-wheel support would be the biggest feature you'd be missing.
• 16:53
  jonadab
  nsITobin: Try drawing a square on the surface of a sphere, with side length equal to one quarter of the circumference.
• 17:07
  njsg
  Try to compute pi using some method that relies on division. Use an Intel Pentium.
• 17:16
  jonadab
  Does "compute tau and then divide by two" count as a method that relies on division?
• 17:19
  njsg
  as far as it gets to use FDIV in 80586, I'm happy :-P
• 17:19
  njsg
  if it can be tweaked to hit the bug, even better.
• 17:20
  nsITobin
  I like we are still on about that lol
• 17:23
  jonadab
  Maybe tomorrow we will talk about Itanim and/or Gopher protocol.
• 17:23
  jonadab
  *Itanium
• 17:24
  nsITobin
  well gopher is the most on-topic of the lot
• 17:24
  nsITobin
  cause SeaMonkey still has the capability to use a gopher extension
• 17:24
  nsITobin
  assuming it isn't busted
• 17:25
  jonadab
  *shrug* I assume SeaMonkey *could* be compiled for 80586, or for Itanium for that matter, if someone were inclined to bother.
• 17:26
  nsITobin
  jonadab: not sure with some of the libs glued in
• 17:26
  nsITobin
  you might have to find alternatives to really make it good
• 17:26
  nsITobin
  or work at all
• 17:26
  jonadab
  There are amd64-specific libs? Does nobody use alternate architectures at all? No arm for instance?
• 17:26
  njsg
  jonadab: reminds me I have to put more stuff on the gopherhole :-P
• 17:27
  nsITobin
  well if people code thinking you have avx instructions or better
• 17:27
  njsg
  nsITobin: it requires modifying a call because of arity change in... InitPump? InitStream? - I faintly recall seeing a fork of Cameron Kaiser's repository with changes already.
• 17:27
  nsITobin
  they may not care or specifically prevent doing older ttargets
• 17:28
  nsITobin
  maybe I am thinking too strictly with OS support as well
• 17:28
  njsg
  jonadab: I think wyatt8750 was already seeing trouble with that on powerpc, libraries and build systems that narrow down the supported platforms
• 17:30
  jonadab
  OS support is trickier. I would NOT expect to be able to compile SeaMonkey for Windows 95, for example.
• 17:30
  jonadab
  Well, not a recent version of Seamonkey. Old old versions, from back when the version numbers still started with M and Firefox had not been invented yet, maybe.
• 17:35
  njsg
  a question is what'd be needed to compile for Windows 4. I'd be curious about that.
• 17:36
  » njsg just wants an excuse to at some point install SeaMonkey 2.53 on Windows 98
• 18:05
  nsITobin
  you know.. it doesn't take a lot to just make an off-the-shelf product just a little more useable.. i.ibb.co/C6rYFPg/image.png
• 18:15
  nsITobin
  light look into codeburg's fork of gitea later if i need any of the more today-features
• 18:15
  nsITobin
  gogs more or less sticks to basic github circa 2012ish
• 18:17
  nsITobin
  i just don't wanna learn go lol
• 23:00
  nsITobin
  njsg: I'd like to compile windows nt 3.51
• 23:55
  tomman
  in the name of Nathan Lineback, DO IT :D
• 23:56
  nsITobin
  can't busy hacking gogs
• 23:56
  nsITobin
  I should fork it and add hg