WELL..

figured out why none of my php software could actually determine a domain and ip address.. seems JIT stuff made it so certain superglobals are lazy populated on request and that's all fine UNLESS you want to use $GLOBALS['_SERVER'] because my superglobals function handles all of em so i specify by key name not $_SERVER directly

luckily my fallbacks for localhost cause my php stuff is accessible via cli as well made it so it didn't die horribly

should we file a bug on bugzilla that bugzilla is bugged in SeaMonkey ;-)

therube: what's your official status?

my "official status" in what way? i'm just me.

mine is Pending Reason to Ban infra wide

but I think you should, it's a legit bug.

what are they gonna do? tell you no lol

oh that status, heh. i'm still good - *if* i can remember my password - which i always knew, until they made you change it, so i went with some long derogatory PW that i have to look up, if i can find it.

therube: here use this for passwords preview.binaryoutcast.com/special/hex

well any less than 4 is useless

still something I whipped up for when .. some xul app will remember my password for me

thg is crashing for some reason...

also

why every mozilla-related site nowadays uses all chromeisms possible so that it doesn't work on other Mozilla browsers than Firefox?

Are they intentionally sabotaging the development of Seamonkey?

Sompi: they been intentionally sabotaging the development of SeaMonkey since a few people decided yeah.. the Mozilla suite, that's gonna continue.

prove me wrong

you don't even have to just look up what WG9s has related or even older logs from the old days

Also, Mozilla's software should be open source, so why are they forcing their users to run nonfree JavaScript code in their browsers to browse Mozilla's websites?

Should be free and open source

why is literally everyone shutting down their infra and moving to github and NOTHING ELSE..

and why is everyone else who runs their own stuff being attacked

including my self and those moonpeople

github itself is an attack against free software

in my view .. the web is gonna get a lot more fucked as soon as http/3 traffic outweighs actual hypertext transport protocol

it bans developers who live, or have citizenship in sanctioned countries, and feeds the source code of the projects to Microsoft's AI as a training material

it bans people for being anti-wayland

github too?

i am banned .. shadowbanned from github forever for speaking out against wayland..

a former friend and associate had his waylandists dogpile me but NO ONE ELSE in that long running multi-year gist was targeted or affected

yeah you can loose your account for stuff in gist

also means node is out if i actually cared, most projects are gatekept away, all standards bodies, etc

all this for lil ol me

I am shadowbanned from every Microsoft-hosted platform, even the services that our school uses

I continuously have weird problems that most other students don't have

I'm relatively sure that Microsoft does that on purpose, but speaking about this is not socially acceptable

It's possible to even get forcibly sent into a mental hospital after speaking about these things

that's crazy

well i learned that git merge commits make the history un-mq-able

but.. one could export the patches in hg form and attempt to rebuild history

nsITobin: but cloudflare sometimes bans users who have "X11; Linux" in their user-agent string - but replace X11 with Wayland and it's suddenly all ok

wat, Wayland is now a UA token!?

WHY

I thought that github does the same

the display server has always been

it COULD be important

why it's of interest to the website which graphical server I use to run my web browser!?

now its likely an indicator if your system is digital rights fucked despite free software

this is all about DRM

Wayland doesn't do _that_ kind of DRM, yo :P

it facilitates it

also, any corporation that dares enforcing the use of DRM on my devices is a corporation that will never get my business

i know what you are talking about lol

there are very good reasons I'll never pay for Netflix, and dRM is one :)

i didn't feel it needed specified

in other news, who's more broken, balls-deep into JavaScript dog vomit: GitHub or GitLab?

GitHub at least usually renders things

GitLab is total and completely unusable if your browser doesn't run their Chromeisms

let's just go back to SeaMonkey 1.1 and just.. do it over again

this web isn't working out

Windows Me wasn't a bad OS, it just took me 20 years to tame it :)

Windows ME was a bad OS because it was a slapped together 98 third edition with some of the more portable NT shit

Windows Me ALSO resulted in Windows XP RATHER than FUCKING NEPTUNE

.. i still have STRONG opinions on those things

tomman: when I get around to designing a desktop environment for linux I think I am gonna lean more into Windows 3.1 evolution with some OS/2 pre-95 inspiration

Windows Explorer really kinda overwrote everything with that desktop taskbar start menu crap

Ironically cellphone launchers are glorified extreme implementations of Program Manager

Yes they are

but not as good

Having all open applications in the "desktop" instead of the "desktop" being a directory didn't make much sense back then when Windows 3 was a thing, because computers didn't have enough memory to run many programs at the same time. Now it does, but somehow almost every desktop environment has adopted that "taskbar" concept from Windows 95...

WELL i am not advocating for minimising to the desktop

the "desktop" could be a unix-like pseudodirectory that has the listing of currently running processes

they would be unreadable and unwritable, but file listing would show them

well you want how many chrome processes on your desktop LOL

but the desktop as the gateway into things .. taskbar aside, windows 95 really failed to take their pre-internet explorer desktop heirarchy very far

everything was spun out to seperate programs

the desktop of windows 3 only makes sense if you have _a lot_ of memory to run _a lot_ of programs at the same time

well in openbox i use a windowlist

because I am multimonitor i don't do desktop icons

of any kind

switched to the mercurial-scm.org rpm version fixed everything

Jitsi still doesn't work on Firefox. It fills the console with "uncaught promise" errors

it used to work on every browser, also on SeaMonkey

but then it suddenly changed

fwiw xfce still supports cde style icons.

one thing i hoped would fall out of the "let's be like macos" efforts desktops or their downstreams did was to bring back "fun extras" in the system menu. but then of course everything went to burger menus instead. sometimes things that didn't need a button bar at all got one so the burger menu could go there.