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17 Jan 2025

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• 02:36
  tomman
  www30.mercantilbanco.com/melp/login oh yeah, one of my banks broke under SeaMonkey, finally
• 02:37
  tomman
  time to close that account for good, it seems
• 02:37
  tomman
  also, notice that they're using Clownflare for hosting/transit!
• 02:37
  tomman
  closing this account will be OH SO CONVENIENT, especially after having burned $5 to update my debit card so some almost useless MasterCard Debit
• 02:38
  tomman
  ...this bank still runs W7 at their branches, and their ATMs run XP... if you can still find one in service
• 02:38
  tomman
  but their home banking? Oh no no no
• 03:33
  franstam
  sounds like a double standard aka hyporcite?
• 03:33
  franstam
  hypocrite
• 13:47
  nsITobin
  I need a better way to update these let's encrypt certs and propagate them between servers
• 13:48
  nsITobin
  i literally got it replaced MINUTES before it expired unless i missed one
• 13:48
  tomman
  you're doing better than a couple of banks I know :D
• 13:50
  nsITobin
  tomman: I also know how to design a god damned website .. filling it with content .. THAT is what I SUCK AT.. and despite my best wishes.. INFRASTRUCTURE in and of its self is not actually content
• 13:54
  tomman
  infra is unsexy indeed
• 13:56
  frg_Away
  hi all
• 13:57
  nsITobin
  greetings frg_Away
• 14:03
  nsITobin
  is the seamonkey wordpress template available somewhere?
• 14:07
  nsITobin
  since a number of mid-range trees simply aren't useful to even really me.. but the gecko 1.x ones are as well as 52 and newer I am gonna eliminate the mid-range versions
• 14:12
  nsITobin
  so .. gonna do 1.7 1.8 (seamonkey) 1.9.2, Mozilla ESR 52, seamonkey 2.53, seamonkey wip (from patch queue), and mozilla-central with comm
• 14:13
  frg_Away
  nsITobin was all before my time. I also usually leave infra to IanN and ewong
• 14:15
  nsITobin
  well in my research especially in custom or classically mozilla.. my answers are often found in gecko 1.7-1.9.2 rather than say esr24 .. its either modern (to us) modern the modern or ancient.. in NEARLY all cases
• 14:21
  njsg
  I need to see how are the different repos again, perhaps next time I have to track down a change in or the introduction of a behaviour/feature
• 14:22
  nsITobin
  njsg: which ones?
• 14:22
  njsg
  I think I've usually used the historical cvs-on-git and comm-central
• 14:23
  nsITobin
  2.0 9ish 17 24 31 and 45 are significant versions from a whole-codebase perspective they all occured around upheavals in tech or buildsystem..
• 14:23
  nsITobin
  pre-quantum that is
• 14:24
  nsITobin
  but after basically having em indexed for a decade its diminishing returns vs effort and space
• 14:25
  nsITobin
  it's*
• 14:25
  nsITobin
  hell I'll open 1.7 just to LOOK at it and draw inspiration..
• 15:11
  nsITobin
  welp.. brb writing a web panel
• 16:06
  nsITobin
  i hate wikitext
• 16:06
  nsITobin
  i hate it hate it hate it
• 16:07
  nsITobin
  everything that supports it is either integrated, under a license I can't use, or has a dependancy tree like it was written in python not php
• 16:14
  nsITobin
  first I need to learn line by line processing.. then I will write my own subset wikitext parser that can parse enough to be useful for sucking info off the mozilla wiki
• 16:19
  Harzilein
  wasn't there more than one wiki engine in use at mozilla?
• 16:52
  nsITobin
  Harzilein: mdn used to be wikilike
• 16:53
  nsITobin
  then it eventually became yaml headers with html in a git repo
• 16:53
  nsITobin
  i long copied that
• 17:03
  Harzilein
  nsITobin: at some point they had some enterprise (java) wiki engine i think
• 18:02
  nsITobin
  indeed
• 18:02
  nsITobin
  sorry Harzilein buscuits and sausage gravy happened