libera #seamonkey

8 Jul 2025

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• 02:17
  tomman
  "Vercel Security Checkpoint"
• 02:17
  tomman
  oh god, another Clownflare Browser Integrity clone
• 02:17
  tomman
  and of course this one REJECTS SeaMonkey after spinning for 30 seconds
• 02:17
  tomman
  "Cannot verify your browser"
• 02:17
  tomman
  "Code 99"
• 02:18
  tomman
  repaircompanion.com/tools/capacitor-codes sample URL
• 02:18
  tomman
  > SyntaxError: identifier starts immediately after numeric literal
• 02:19
  tomman
  the offending line is: let Gd=GD&0xffffffffn
• 02:19
  tomman
  ...what the hell is that
• 02:19
  tomman
  ah, even "d=0xffffffffn" breaks with the same error
• 02:19
  tomman
  it's that "n" at the end
• 02:20
  tomman
  its.... our nemesis, BigInt
• 02:20
  tomman
  WHY THAT CRAP GOT INTO THE WEB STANDARDS!?
• 02:21
  tomman
  developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/We…t/Guide/Numbers_and_strings#bigints
• 02:21
  tomman
  and why those Gestapo-like browser checkers even want BigInt!?
• 02:31
  nsITobin
  tomman: gross
• 02:32
  tomman
  it's like an airport demanding you to fly in in a plane no smaller than a Dreamliner just for a regional flight where a CRJ200 is more than enough
• 03:26
  nsITobin
  tomman: well.. what can anyone do?
• 07:33
  grey_gandalf
  i follow.. since these cloudflare checks are a nightmare. They break SeaMonkey, but they also break ArcticFox, TenFourFox et. al.
• 07:34
  grey_gandalf
  part of that is justified to keep of AI scrapers though, they are extreme
• 07:34
  grey_gandalf
  however, I discovered that even old to very old Safari passes those tests quickly
• 09:31
  njsg
  0708|03:21:36 <+tomman> and why those Gestapo-like browser checkers even want BigInt!? <-- because if you're not capable of AI scrapping you're a bot!
• 09:32
  njsg
  what's funny is that there is one thing Anubis is doing quite well, and it's hilarious that it does work to keep AI scrapers out. I don't mean the JS check itself, I mean the first ever check of them all.
• 09:32
  njsg
  it's also funny I've seen people calling CloudFlare "professional" in comparison with Anubis
• 09:33
  njsg
  this is the same CloudFlare that deployed a massive self-DDoS on themselves
• 09:33
  njsg
  because apparently they couldn't do fallbacks without requiring features that would only be present when the fallbacks weren't needed
• 09:34
  njsg
  mistakes happen, but calling Anubis the less professional of the two, given history, is laughable.