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frg_Away IanN_Away WG9s_Away njsg

looks working :)

what was the command to set voice status permanetly?

/cs or /chanserv or /msg ChanServ flags #SeaMonkey nick +vV

whatever your client has

he must not have appreciated the highlight which is fair he may be busy

done. If not IanN_Away needs to do it

yep

it works and I ain't touching it until I have to.

lol

thanks+++

it's like the cross-reference I am not messing with this instance until I need to.. and these things the logbot and mxr need some work and some proper instructions for setup so its reproducable and others can also make use of it..

i am thankful for buc's instructions but someone elses years old instructions with his annotations isn't the best format.. it obviously worked with sone proding but not the most efficient.

nsITobin: thanks too

... hmm wonder how much of a disaster it would be to put mah header on the page

who owns the comm-central.org domain?

guess it is a good think that this server was still set to UTC

lol

test

what happened with the chat archive ?

still there and might come back or not.

is there an alternate source of the archive web interface ?

not that I am aware of. Hope hrosik comes back I think he maintains it. But with the new one we are god again for current stuff thanks to tobin.

see logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey guest_

for that incarnation

a lot of thank to Tobin

its too useful a tool to not have someone doing it.. I simply have the infra at hand and .. a couple of days to poke at it.

tomman: app passwords were not killed and are actually listed as an alternative in the announcement, I think. *But* if you're on an organization account, that organization needs to allow app passwords.

tomman: try a newer nightly

tomman: also, I think MS at one point changed scopes, so look for the scope preference and remove all occurrences of 365

or, if you can, test with a brand new profile to make sure there are no previous settings, to make sure that the problem isn't that; if the problem is that might be really just s/365//g

njsg: how do you feel about phpwiki?

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Active: active (running) since Sun 2024-07-21 21:16:34 UTC; 3s ago

njsg: hmmm, app passwords are NOT mentioned in the email I got, or in that announcement, but I would need to enable 2FA to get the option anyway

(does MICROS~1 use TOTP codes just like everybody else, or it's "MS TOTP Enterprise Edition"?)

for google or for microsoft

gonna try updating the nightly

the one I'm using is from July 11th

speaking of we should REALLY work on a totp feature for seamonkey.. make SeaMonkey your authinticator

just generate and store

one of my banks believe that only Google can make authenticators

"Insert your Google Authenticator code"

*pulls up his KaiOS cellphone*

"Welcome, $USER!"

totp isn't that much of a thing really

Steam does use a slightly bastardized implementation

it should be fairly trivial to say.. take your key store it in the password manager using say a totp:// scheme like how imap and smtp passwords are stored.. retrieve that code generate the actual code and present to user..

adding logic to fill automagically tho

that will need some extra work

and of course tomman now that we have a logbot again everyone is gonan start stealing all my ideas

:P

my name is not Ai :P

nsITobin: never touched it, I think

tomman: so far I've seen these mentioned as an option, but as only now did I get the e-mail, I hadn't had the opportunity to read it before, perhaps the e-mail itself is a bit too lacking in the information department

njsg: the email doesn't even have links, other than to MS privacy declaration

at first I thought it was fake or phishing, but the lack of links was a giveaway that, yes, it's the real deal

I found the announcement I linked to by searching online (and didn't even used Bing for that!)

anyway, installing today's nightly...

don't forget to use outlook.office365.com for incoming server if you're setting a new account for testing

(as opposed to imap-mail.outlook.com)

my incoming server have been ALWAYS outlook.office365.com

I think my config might have been slightly different when I was using OE6 for Hotmail

(that was, for the record, before I even found out about Netscape and Mozilla, so many many years ago

; although there *is* apparently someone currently using MSOE6 for USENET in Motzarella?)

nope, switching to OAuth2 on the latest nightly didn't worked

the blank browser windows popup, doesn't login

no email downloads, trying to send emails complain with a connection lost to smtp.office365.com

the URL on the window starts with login.microsoftonline.com

next experiment would be on one of my spare setups via a clean profile

if only I could catch the URL it's opening...

my money would be on a 401 or 403...

tomman: is this an org account or a free account?

free, it's a 15 year old Hotmail

tomman: what exactly happens for "doesn't login"?

tomman: and does the URL stay at login.microsoftonline.com?

tomman: and is this a new account or an existing account?

When trying to receive email: the login.microsoftonline.com window pops up, blank, then goes away after a second

(I mean e-mail account in the SeaMonkey profile)

nothing errors out but no email downloads, even if there is incoming email on the server

when trying to send email: same window pops up, blank, goes away after 1-2 seconds, then the email client complains with "lost connection to smtp.office365.com"

what puzzles me here is the window going away

I created this account on this current SM profile a month ago

tomman: okay, did you check the scope?

(but the mailbox itself is over 10 years old)

tomman: for the record, URL should be redirected to login.live.com

what's exactly this "scope" thing you mention?

for hotmail

the OAuth2 scope

where do I check that?

search for scope in about:config

if it has 365 remove all the 365

the setting would be mail.server.[account].oauth2.scope

OK, I see four entries: two for GMail (which is weird since I use an app password there, not OAuth2)

and two for this Outlook/Hotmail account

as far as you try to use oauth2 once, I think it'll create and then retain the setting, even if you switch to something else, which explains the gmail part

the value for those reference URLs that begin with outlook.office365.com

so I should edit those to leave them as outlook.office.com ?

yes, and all occurrences, the setting probably has three different https:// URIs

OK, lemme try

OK, now I get a password prompt from Microsoft!

then ... it worked!

please check if it actually downloads/lists messages

OK, a sent message went by, and MS asked if I wanted to let Mozilla Thunderbird access my account

(as if there's some issue it might still fail in SM after the OAuth2 login succeeds in the form)

yep, email now downloads

so it was this "scope" thing

which had the wrong URLs

I should research into the app passwords for MS, as enabling TOTP 2FA is something I'll be forced to do sooner than later

just like I did with Google

At this point, I'd look into building a time machine instead.

anyway, thanks njsg - the scope URLs were the trick

the pref looks like: outlook.office365.com/IMAP.AccessAsUser.All outlook.office365.com/POP.AccessAsUser.All outlook.office365.com/SMTP.Send offline_access

there are two entries: one for the POP3 server and another for the SMTP server

editing both for removing the 365s is what let this work

njsg: from where those URLs come? Are they hardcoded into SM's source, or supplied elsewherE?

I suppose from Microsoft