How are you holding up frg_Away?

nsITobin life goes on but still sad. Need to think about where to do prereleaee and maybe comm-central buils now. azureis slowwww and costly.

the actual tangible building?

yes from the central 253 and wip queues.

we can probably publish 2.53 and wip on azure now and then.

I have enough boxes to do it but not the time really :(

I wouldn't suggest PAYING for azure time for central anyone can build that else mozilla can't dev

yeah we want it at lest building but not costly.

Sorry frg_Away I was just reviewing the internet archive. windows/linux for i686 and x86-64 plus macintosh plus langpacks for rel/git prelease and mq wip builds .. and battling central

frg_Away: build wise quirks not withstanding mac is most difficult to source with 32bit linux being a close second. Windows is trivial and linux 64 is doable for about anyone. Building the whole deal on a frequent basis is also a challenge including langpacks etc

Is an apple build server you can rent even a thing and even if it is would it even be remotely affordable

nsITobin mac is not a problem. Linux x86 is more but now Io think its really time to cut the x86 prerelease builds

Speaking of x86, what's the minimum supported CPU for those these days?

as in "what feature sets are enforced by the compiler"

mozilla standard and former UXP standard was sse2 minimum

dunno today

still sse 2 I think but anything below core 2 duo and 4 GB is self torture

and if you need all 4GB, you have no choice but to go 64-bit

you can't do the web on those specs i can BARELY watch the youtube on my 2014 hp elitebook craptop

fortunately Intel doesn't sell new x86 consumer CPUs.. right?

And Win10 32-bit goes EOL next October

tomman: October 2025

or 2026?

14 October 2025

tomman: go 64-bit with a chipset that doesn't prevent more than 4GiB RAM. I'm not that happy to know this, no.

...curiously a Patch Tuesday

you can go to seamonkey-project.org binaryoutcast.com thereisonlyxul.org and maybe a few other low bandwith sites JUST fine on old hardware .. at seamonkey's CURRENT code level.. but beyond that you're kinda screwed

njsg: eww i945 :P

Anyone using Win 10 x86 needs its head examined.

tomman: hey, it's the only decent laptop I have! (and it's quite good at that)

I think I've seen only ONE Win10 32-bit setup in the wild

windows vista and 8x users are gonna become JUST like XP users give it a few more years

and it was one of those force-ugpraded Win7 boxes

so Win 10 IA-32 goes EOL before NT 6.1 amd64?

that had the wrong Windows version installed

windows 7 users shouldn't be terrible.. cause insane windows 7 holdouts are illogical when 7 is just vista

i965+ otherwise you are screwed anyway.

njsg: eh, that one went EOL in 2020.... unless if I'm unaware of some still maintained SKU for embedded?

tomman: not sure if better or worse than browsing the linux menuconfig and wondering why it was showing PAE options for amd64 and realizing I had installed the IA-32 option

Win 10 will get esu too.

tomman: isn't it still getting updates?

not at all, except for the antimalware scanner thing

ah, MRT

if not buy a cheap server 2019 or 2022 and be happy.

i need to get that server license code

maybe in march

and I'm not even sure if those finally stopped being shipped to 7 users, I haven't checked lately despite still having W7 setups here (mostly dormant, of course)

legacyupdate is best for windows 7

no idea about 7, while I've been dealing with 7 more lately, my NT 6.1 would usually be a 2008R2 install

7 has not been shipped for a long time

my w7redux cd has enough integrated to make it less painful

I did booted my oldest W7 setup in late December, and that one didn't prompted me for updates

I need to see if I have any key for newer than 2008R2, but I'm guessing if so it's the server version before 2019

nsITobin see private chat

hold on i may have it all on ignore

news updated seamonkey-project.org

Still sad

extremely

Rest In Peace~

tomman the fun thing is that Vista x86 is still updated via orginal Server 2008. Didn't try it.

wat, I thought that both 2008 and 2008 R2 (which is 7) were both dead

it's complicated

lol

tomman no supported till 2026 with esu premium assurance but not for mere mortals. They need a hack :)

haaaaaaaacck

Same for 8.1 and 2012 R2

have to say it like that or the hack doesn't work ;)

AAAAAGH CLOWNFLAAAAAAAARE

I'm trying to reset my password at Danbooru, which of course uses goddamned Clownflare Turnsickle, which keeps failing All. The. Time.

the usual trick of "threat it with the inspector" is not helping this time, as while it makes the checkbox render, it... fails the check, always

so this also means it's now impossible to login to Danbooru too, since the logon form has the moronic Clownflare Turnsick craptcha of doom

sent some extremely nice feedback to them involving a future president

Oh, and this time not only the craptcha fails, it also triggers the debugger if you have devtools open

this being clowdflare, how likely is it that they've screwed something up that's unrelated to locking browsers out?

FINALLY, after ~20 attempts and two different computers

the goddamned Turnsuck agreed that yes, I'm a human being, with flesh, bones, and sexual organs

and of course, at another channel I got told to pound sand, to "test in Chrome or my complaint is invalid", and to stop bitching about Clownflare and Google because it's a "Me" problem

oh Internet...

we're getting more and more hopeless as a society every day

Well the linux foundation is now goign into bed with Chromium. What do you expect?

"it's a you problem, your complaint is invalid CLOSED WONTFIX USECHROME BITCHAWAY"