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tomman
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tomman
WOW
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tomman
a Clownflare Agent finally approached a browser dev!
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tomman
looks like someone got rubbed the wrong way with that El Reg's article...but not enough to make noise
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tomman
maybe we should get on the phone too... nah
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nsITobin
there is no universe where Pale Moon and the Unified XUL Platform is more legit than SeaMonkey..
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tomman
in any case let's see what comes out of this
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nsITobin
Well just remember, Moonchild hates SeaMonkey always has always will.
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nsITobin
he is on public record about it
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nsITobin
somewhere on the forum
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tomman
at this point none of this matters because we have a common enemy that wants us DEAD: Clownflare.
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tomman
not just "gone", DEAD
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tomman
...this Chrome obsession reminds me of a specific Spongebob episode
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tomman
"Welcome to the future! In the future everything is Chrome!"
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nsITobin
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tomman
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tomman
(warning: site REALLY broken on SM, but at least it's readable)
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tomman
"Cloudflare has admitted its browser-detection system is blocking some users’ access to websites if they’re using lesser-known web browsers."
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tomman
"TechRadar Pro has asked Cloudflare to comment on the matter and to share its plans on any fixes, but we did not receive an immediate response."
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tomman
one of those phrases do not match the other...
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nsITobin
Who knows..
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franstam
tomman, took clownflare long enough to own up... but still the changes are not rolled back nor the sites broken working yet
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franstam
"needs to be caught red handed, and paraded in public" to own up
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njsg
tomman: I think Sanoma (in .fi) has also started serving AVIF for images, including WEBP as alternative but fortunately JPEG is still available, just not included in srcset
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njsg
0305|13:56:28 <+nsITobin> that note is legal tender for all debts public or private <-- they should print that on the notes, to make it clearer to everyone!!!11
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nsITobin
so cloudflare is blocking firefox focus because firefox focus blocks cf trackers
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nsITobin
ran into it earlier
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nsITobin
on my cellularized telephone slash government surveillance device
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nsITobin
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njsg
if you do it hard enough you can probably presume nobody is being blocked, just like relying on telemetry to decide which features to strip can fire back...
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nsITobin
I have returned from foraging for supplies.
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nsITobin
got these chili cheese pork sausages .. store creation gonna try tonight
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nsITobin
also switching back to php work while things are pending review on central.. might also work on 253 stuff i have had pending
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nsITobin
currently stripping down smarty to better serve my purposes
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tomman
oh god, somehow my Danbooru session got logged off
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tomman
...and of course logging on again is impossible because CLOWNFLARE
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tomman
(the logon form uses TurnSick™)
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nsITobin
maybe someone should introduce cloudflare personnel to the pirate bay's long forgotton stash of retractable batons
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nsITobin
welcome back
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nsITobin
did you sort it?
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tomman
yep, ANY ATTEMPT to inspect any Turnsickle™ instance will result in a instahang
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nsITobin
is this true in other web clients?
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tomman
great, I'm locked out of Danbooru
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tomman
now I'm Officially [CENSORED]
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tomman
time to figure out how to copy the cookies from my other instance
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tomman
nsITobin: this is not the traditional Clownflare brickwall
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tomman
Turnstile can be used as a standalone captcha-esque tool too
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nsITobin
could be localsession as well
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tomman
great, first a 4 hour power outage during a particularly hot Friday afternoon, now this
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tomman
maybe I should just ditch everything and become a cat herder in the Amazonian rainforest
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nsITobin
well i am forking only as much smarty to do the job gonna call it pointy
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tomman
Now I would like to know what the hell is causing Turnsickle to 1) not render by default, and 2) HANG SeaMonkey if you try to inspect it
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nsITobin
tomman: could live in the ecuadorian jungle make youtube videos how us politicians are clones with only level 2 chakras
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tomman
I would need a nightly with debug symbols, for starters...
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nsITobin
could be as simple as detecting access to the console api somehow
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nsITobin
or if the viewport changes by a certain degree UPward
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nsITobin
from position
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nsITobin
like devtools normally is
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nsITobin
or leftward
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tomman
the hang one started happening a week later of so after the initial wave of poisonous scripts aimed at Pale Moon
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tomman
so they either tried some other load of malware for them and didn't worked... but it's in fact hitting us
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nsITobin
could be the code is so edge that once it has an inspector attached it goes nuts with recursion but without a js debugger it runs .. fine
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tomman
Prior to it, you could use devtools to "magically" get Turnsick to render
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tomman
or maybe it's the actual render phase that it's triggering the hang
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tomman
nsITobin: that 256-level stacktrace indeed is a clue
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tomman
although without symbols it's not that useful :/
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nsITobin
so its recursion that only falls over on MOST systems if analyzed mapped and pieced out?
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tomman
Is there an addon these days that works here to import and export specific cookies?
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tomman
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nsITobin
scratchpad and create the cookie with javascript with the data of the cookie
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nsITobin
maybe
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nsITobin
or devtools
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nsITobin
but don't think sm devtools has the cookie editor
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tomman
I can see the cookies with devtools, but it doesn't offer me a option to copy or export them
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tomman
just to delete and create a new one
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tomman
well, at least I can edit existing cookies and add new ones
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tomman
so I guess I'll have to do a looooot of copy and paste...
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tomman
VICTORY
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tomman
manually copying the cookies was painful, but worked~
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tomman
found five cookies under donmai.us, including a... CF clearance cookie that had expired in January (!!!!), but refused to go away on my working setup but doesn't even persist here (as expected, it's stale!)
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tomman
but really one or two are needed, the others look like user preferneces
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tomman
also, said session cookies have to be set to HTTP-Only, which cannot be done via JS (for obvious reasons), but the devtools cookie editor allow to tinker with that