maybe if one could write a program to detect whether a given user would *not* pass through cloudflare and serve them content, and redirect those who pass through cloudflare to a honeypot...

(please ignore any similarities with the Entscheidungsproblem)

Everything is currently unreachable until dns propigates back.. assuming it won't be hit again.. someone has them selves a tiny botnet

wonder what they get out of it. totally senseless

they got to tell me to kill my self

so i guess that is something

yeah senseless

the subject is very odd they seem ignorant about what a seamonkey is but identified me as an xpcom interface

or rather roleplaying as an xpcom interface

direct quote

have I reached the stage where people are told a selection of things about me and then told attack? not even people I have screamed at anymore?

cause that is a whole different war than the one I been fighting

if the subject has no connection to me or the things i been involved with whatsoever and is a random goon set at me that is something new vs me screaming at someone and they get a couple of their BSD friends to kick my ass online.. it is an escilation .. except I ain't done much more than a few seamonkey patches in years..

so i can't figure out who it is or their goals

that is just my speculation

it isn't a mozillian.. I can tell that

dns should have propigated by now and I can reach stuff how about you frg_Away

yes logbot is there again

Good.. I guess I will have to put dns on all the servers make it ROBUST

frg_Away: well it seems screaming IS the solution.. held off gutting social security for a little while screaming pointing out shit.. demanding justification..

it may be false hope but I'll take it :P

anyway seems for now things are operational.. so what was I doing today?

oh the pkg version patch for m-c top can sort the state of texas..

amd sort*

and*

I think weather underground broke last night, won't load data, and I suspect some issue deep in minified JS code

because it makes one request to www.wunderground.com/undefined

i hate the weather underground

and IBM's Weather Channel

I use ventusky.com

if i want lies I'll get them from a federal agency

so i stick to NOAA

this site looks neat

Of course very helpful JS does not show any error message - but anyway the request suggests there was no error checking in some crucial step :-P

uh. has been a somewhat sunny day so far, but ventusky shows precipitation, I look through the window and, sure, there are some suspicious clouds now

sucks this site doesn't have layers

clouds and radar are often useful together frg_Away

also is this real conditions or just the predicted weather according to forecast models?

I think thexy use real time satelite data plus doing forcasts. Got this site from Frank Lion on mozillaZine I think.

it's a cool site good for a world overview just don't think one could use it for more than broad storm tracking

also .. unrelated

YEAH TOAST!

the science of perfectly burned bread and the spread of animal byproduct upon it.

what's this "perfectly burned bread" you speak of?

njsg: toast, of course

apple butter is great on toast njsg

I LOVE when people send me stackdumps over cellphone chat apps

especially when the chatapp splits a hundred-line stackdump in several unreadable messages

because people have yet to discover that you can indeed attach text files on chatapps

files?

files don't exist

tomman: are you telling ME you still have local data?

silly tomman

oh, I forgot we're senile dinosaurs :P

silly me indeed

tomman: old and insecure i believe is what they were calling it last decade

while I appreciate having five or six cats on your computer, there are local files here too

(do we have a bad pun jar?)

we need to find a way to convert puns into patches then we will be set

njsg:

also time travel would be nice

can time travel run off puns?

nsITobin: an Apache-based pun-hosting service?

pun tracker

RESOLVED UNFUNNY

:P

punzilla

Someone asked earlier about localized function names. The Finnish version of Symbian's spreadsheet program has those

=SUMMA(), =JOS(), =KESKIARVO(), =NELIÖJUURI(), =ITSEISARVO()

=LASKE(), =PYÖRISTÄ(), =MAKS(), =MIN()

=EKSPONENTTI()

=EPÄSUORA()

=NELIÖSUMMA()

=PERMUTAATIO()

that spreadsheet program actually has surprisingly many features and a complete local documentation for everything

1I have to ask: how often are {{kk|set a problem with spreadsheet function names? or it's not an issue because it's really only used for display?

Depending of the file format, it may (and will) be a problem

And also I have no idea what many of those functions do

(so, MAX has been localized too, into MAKS?)

Apparently LASKE() is the same as COUNT()

njsg: yes

many of those localizations make no sense

epäsuora I suppose doesn't involve launching Areena

why MAKS()? Why not SUURIN()?

that might even count as a transliteration and not translation, is "maks" used a lot as a shorter word in accounting or something?

Microsoft's EPÄSUORA seems to be "follow reference indicated by content of addressed cell"?

I have no idea what it means

"Palauttaa tekstimerkkijonon määrittämän viittauksen"

So is it the same as SUM() but accepts only one cell as the argument?

What even is the English version?

I think it's kind of like C's dereference operator, but I'm not sure yet

Sompi: INDIRECT, it seems hexcelligent.fi/2015/12/03/epasuora-viittaus-excelissa

These localized spreadsheet functions are more of a funny curiosity than something that I would actually consider using

yeah, now I'm kinda curious about the translations

Sompi: aren't function names usually localized on spreadsheets anyway?

at least that's how Excel does

I do think Microsoft's documentation examples could be a bit better.

MICROS~1 documentation quality died with Visual Studio 6

it has been a eternal trainwreck since then

tomman: now that raises a question: how's the quality of MSTS documentation?

things can derail in some conditions in MSTS

What documentation?

Nowadays if you press [F1] on any Microsoft product, it just opens a web browser with an error 404 page

Sompi: I think this is true for pretty much every modern piece of software

even FOSS

It's been like that since they deprecated and removed the help browser

we devs *hate* writing documentation with a passion

yay, step into another Clownflare landmine that hung my browser

but this time I wasn't even inspecting a widget!

ciao

sup

spik italian?

negative

inglish?

yeah largely.. i mean you wanna try in klingon.. I'm rusty but game lol

I'm new... I still don't know how to use this program to find the various chat lists, could you help me?

frg_Away: how come we don't have chatzilla help in the helpviewer?

it won't let me in chatzilla

Nilos: I personally don't use the irc client in seamonkey so I am not much help. However, this should with rare exception apply though it is in english chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq

do you use mirc? I installed it, but I can't access the servers

No. I have always used xchat/hexchat but that is a dead project

ok... thank you for your availability

nsITobin someone needs to write it

ChatZilla -> Join Channel shoudl show all channels and you can search too.

no idea about the current state of mIRC, nor XChat and Hexchat

well hexchat is dead

the website does have some documentation, chatzilla itself also has some with the /HELP command

xchat long died

mIRC is still alive, surprisingly

IIRC Hexchat was EOL'd

regarding the documentation, there's that thing about bookmark properties that came up in the newsgroup recently, and yes I think the text wasn't updated, I need to check if there's a bug for that, because I think I saw one already

and then still see first what's left to finish in the one copy of comm-central I have yet to update

and Microsoft Comic Chat won't work with freenode-libera

(it also can't do safe channels on IRCnet IIRC)