cyberlink.com/support-center/faq/content?id=21452 another document that should have been kept as a static webpage, but now thanks to the magic of JS FrameNotWorks™, it will render nothing but a blank page, and has NO FALLBACK

(there is a noscript tag, whose sole contents is... Google trackers)

(Relevant script errors: consumer of dynamic imports)

Hmm, publishing a webpage in SeaMonkey Composer via HTTP in the publishing address (instead of the usual FTP) doesn't seem to show any authorization or authentication credentials being sent in the HTTP PUT request, despite inputting a username and password in the publishing settings

I wonder if this is a known bug

(but then who even uses the Publish feature of Composer these days lol)

mimasama Composer does not support authentication.

I still think composer would be best utilized in today's age as a general purpose text, script, and document editor throw an export to docx from html .. add spell check and there you go

Good morning #SeaMonkey

of course I think a XUL hg/git client and file manager would be handy too

oh god, CLOWNFLAREEEEE!!!

their Turnstile shit is BROKEN again

what now

same deal: nothing renders

...until I threat it with the inspector

domi or devtools?

devtools

now that's quite a interesting interaction

what does it do for you?

cause i get no devtools fun when I visit

In my case the checkbox doesn't render, but if I fire up devtools and inspect the place where the checkbox should render... it renders!

and after a couple cycles of this, Turnstile lets me pass, and yes "my browser is secure"

otherwise if I leave the browser alone, nothing will render, like, ever?

is this still the same case as before that rom site?

this time it got me at steamdb.info (which is broken on SM due to other reasons)

but yeah, same Clownflare captcha

in the toolkit js error console is there anything new "from DOM" besides media queries for the prefers-* and forced-colors queries

Hi tomman nsITobin

nsITobin: I see some hits for prefers-* and forced-colors:

aside of that, nothing new

hey frg_Away

thanks tomman

sup frg_Away

also, some -moz-overlay-scrollbars "from DOM" hits, unsure if related or just noise

We need a document or a bug to keep track of the clownflare saga

So i was using windows 11 earlier

it's a complete disaster, I open things up and its just a complete trainwreak everything new is in baby mode and everything old is visably rotting away look at MMC on Windows 11 and tell me it isn't digitally ROTTING

nsITobin That is why I am on server. 11 is the worst and it will suceed because MS will force updates and new hardware won't run on 10 or older.

SeaMonkey OS it is then lol

frg_Away: what is the main difference between server 2019 and ltsc 2019?

also isn't some software still server sku hostile?

aside from server roles and its tech

setup a bit different with server manager. Didn't notice much difference otherwise to Win 10 at this level. Never tried LTSC. I think MS blocks Office 365 and some software might choke but not the one I use. And there is always a vm where i can run it if needed.

Windows 8 and later is absolute garbage. IMO, the IT community should just collectively refuse to support it in any capacity whatsoever, like was done with OS/2 back in the day.

Server 2022 is good till 2031 and is still usable too.

OS/2 suffered from IBMities. It was great but IBM destroyed it as usual.

Windows 8.1 with Open Shell menu is decent. Some quirks but not as bad as 10

wrt OS/2 IBM had tons of internal ews software available. Like EPM, Theseus/2 and other stuff. Some if this only trickled back into Warp 4 but most is now buried and forgotten. I will never again buy anything IBM.

I wasn't implying that OS/2 was actually bad; people refused to support it mostly because it was _different_ and didn't have enough users to justify it.

And yes, IBM supported it internally, but when the rest of the community washes their hands of you, your OS tends to go the way of VMS.

Your selling points don't matter if you're not compatible with anybody's anything.

It was bundled with PCs with not enough memory and this gave it a bad taste too. There were other issues but mostly I blame IBM.

But my point was that if IT people collectively stick to their guns and go "I'm not supporting that" more or less in unison, the system will go away.

Everyone's afraid to do that with 8/10/11 because MS is pushing it, but eh.

It was fun to run on the first dual Pentium boards but my installation is now in a vm and the hardware in the attic.

joadab it is basically nobody gets fired by buying MS these days :)

Not directly. But ask Delta what happens when software that you shouldn't have relied on, has problems you can't fix.

Windows 2021 is too broken for my key old crap

2019 is borderline

my entire graphic design capability is based on a specific build of Corel Paint Shop Pro XI gimp nor photoshop can replace

completely

jonadab: kinda like that

i'd go back to jasc psp 9 but most of my stuff is in the newer format and newer psp is utter garbage

and why? cause I wanted.. soft blur

frg_Away: well either they learned to keep their opinions to them selves or they think windows 11 is great by this point

nsITobin have you tried a vm? Unless really needs gfx hardware acceleration it should be good

Well not with kvm its unuseable .. i can use vmware but i need to patch the kernel modules again and I am convinced vmware is reaching the end of its stability

virtualbox just kills the entire system bus and cripples my system on linux..

because it takes out the network stack

I need to get switched over to el9 on here but el9 doesn't have everything I need and what little is in epel is broken or partial

so it means i have to build that stuff my self

then once I have that i can use vmware and things should be generally.. fine

really would be awesome to have download list include timestamps like it used to and ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox still does

a-865: so archive.seamonkey-project.org/relea…es/2.53.18.2/win64/en-US/index.html

?

btw standalone grub is best grub

i am installing rocky9 from a centos disk and a kickstart wonder if it will work

it worked.. but gnome-menus is not compatable with openbox had to fudge in fc redhat-menus which work and same as fedora uses.. i have no compositor no file manager no gpu fan control basically system is wide open more or less

fastcompmgr doesn't prevent screentearing..

nsITobin: OK there, but not on archive.seamonkey-project.org/relea….19b1/linux-x86_64/en-US/index.html

or the https version

likely cause they are updated more often.. just look at the infotext

these listings are being generated they are not apache autoindexes tho

the original ftp listings were the best

but I am not familar with a lot of sm's current infrastructure

what is "infotext"?

or the json

the json has a build id

speaking of.. hey the frg_Away have you considered getting some mirroring with the opensource mirror networks like mozilla used to have and many distros still do or do they want monitary funds these days

a-865 download manager has start and end time or what do you mean?

nsITobin I didn't even look at it. No time. I am leaving all the server stuff to ewong IanN_Away and WG9s. Just fiddling with the Windows build server now and then.

I don't know anything about download manager. I use only wget from the download directory for downloading anything. What I'm looking for is the ftp list of available packages to download to tell me when they were put there, just like file listings always used to be..

frg_Away: how much did we loose with the places transition?

rather jsdownloads

cause jsdownloads literally wasn't as rich of an interface least originally

a-865 sorry I misread. I still see the timestamps. Unfortunately the initial ones got lost during the move.

nsITobin not much I think. There was so much broken stuff like purge with dates and sorting.

frg_Away: on the windows directory URL from nsITobin, timestamps are present, but not on Linux URL I pasted

I a claning out the remains of the old sync api whenever find the time

I knew the originals were lost :(

a-865 looks like a glitch ewong needs to look at. The index.html seems to be bad

why are they generated anyway and not just autoindex?

or just how Mozilla had it when they went aws

nsITobin azure don't ask me...

that explains it ;)

anyway a-865 I am sure these minor issues can be resolved over time the main thing is they are up and available

like the holy cross-reference or mystical keeper of history and memory the logbot

As far as I know ewong needs to generate the index every time for a new release. This release was a bit different because of so many build changes and suspect an error crept in.

got picom fudged in until I can compile it.. but yeah to fully switch over to Rocky IX i have several components to compile

nighty night

rest well

hi tonymec|away

you run the linux.. which distro works best for you?